Group Offers Scholarships To Only White Males

You are so old school!

You are just being cruel Penguin.
White Pride just sounds so gay, it conjours up an image of short haired men in nice shiny boots hanging out together trying to be shocking.



White Power is more manly, it has that masculine ring. It's for intelligent people who think women are so special they should be kept in the kitchen, it couldn't be gay in any way, it is more in the traditional nazi ethos of coming together in joy and dressing up in a way that certainly wasn't camp.

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

White Pride just sounds so gay, it conjours up an image of short haired men in nice shiny boots hanging out together trying to be shocking.

Ah but now you're just being stereotypical.
And that's not appropriate in this thread when we are attempting to defend the very Fibre and Soul of equality!

[Stealhead]

"The only problem would be if it was pushing education from groups of people like the above mentioned poster."

You are referring to Snestorm I assume here? I hope so because if you think that I am a racist you are quite sadly mistaken.Just wanted to clear any confusion if you where referring to me.

The whole issue with things like Affirmative Action(AA) to me is that they have the goal of being equal but they often wind up causing more animosity not less.Also since they do not tell you that due to AA you where passed over for a job or spot in a school those in the minority tend to assume that this was the reason they got passed even though they do not often know the real reason it is often also assumed that if a minority holds a position surely they must have had lower scores than others.

[Anthony W.]

@ Steelhead...

Only to Italy to meet my extended family (2nd gen. off the boat)

But through my friends in foreign exchange programs sending me pictures of their travels, I do prefer European women. A nice, thin, pale French woman or a deep olive green eyed (tho uncommon - everyone in my immediate family has green eyes) Italian...

But... Back on the issue...

Ehh my friend may have said that in the heat of the moment, like my friend screaming GD (insert Air Force general who's name I don't remember) when he was rejected by the Air Force Academy.

I do think that minorities are given special treatment, and, I have seen minor examples myself.

My point (or lack thereof) has been made

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

@ Steelhead...

Only to Italy to meet my extended family (2nd gen. off the boat)

But through my friends in foreign exchange programs sending me pictures of their travels, I do prefer European women. A nice, thin, pale French woman or a deep olive green eyed (tho uncommon - everyone in my immediate family has green eyes) Italian...

But... Back on the issue...

Ehh my friend may have said that in the heat of the moment, like my friend screaming GD (insert Air Force general who's name I don't remember) when he was rejected by the Air Force Academy.

I do think that minorities are given special treatment, and, I have seen minor examples myself.

My point (or lack thereof) has been made

Fair enough but you cant say what women you prefer until you uh... experience them for example I found that German women are a bit more aggressive your typical American woman.Maybe it was just the area I was in but I got basically dragged out of a bar or techno club by a German woman a few times not because I was not willing to go but because I did not realize I was going anywhere until being grabbed.

I think your friend is something he thinks that he is not if he gets passed over by such prestigious schools they are passing him over for good reason other candidates are out shining him clearly.Sounds to me like he is trying to fight outside his weight class.if your pal said "GD" General so and so then I'd say they made a wise choice not select him.

I guess your friend never heard of back up plans he should have applied to at least 10 or 15 schools 90% of people do not get accepted to their choice school or pick a school they had not planned on after touring it.Your pal could attend any number of ROTC programs and after 4 years be the same rank as the guy that went to Colorado.

I guess he is also unaware that one must also receive a nomination from one of four people The President of the United States(hang out with Mr.Obama) the Vice President(happen to know Joe?) or your congress House of Representative member or your US Senator.You will of course have already have met the admission requirements of said Academy.Oh and the Director of admissions at the Air Force Academy is one Colonel A.M. Benyshek she would have have signed any letter not a General.Your friend is lying.I was in the Air Force I know where to find the information I want to know about commanders and you can look it up easily anyway.

I some what dislike Air Force officers from the Academy to be frankly honest.You see when I was at basic training during the summer there where also cadets from Colorado that got to hang out with the TIs the idea was to see what basic training is like for enlisted the point of which I fail to see as they get the same experience from a discipline stand pint as we do their freshmen year.The problem is that each training squadrons commander had a different view on what these cadets could do in my squadron the 322nd they where not allowed to act like TI in any manner.At the squadron I had the misfortune of getting KP duty at the cadets where allowed to haze you in border line Russian military style short of physically touching you.WE got freaking needlessly ****ed with all damn day simply because these prep ass cadets had free reign to do what ever they wanted it really pissed me off when I noticed that several cadets assigned to my squadron where also there and there was no military discipline or training meaning or value to it.That is the way it goes in the Air Force you have the real workers the dogs and the Chair Force pencil pushing preps enlisted and officer who think they are high and mighty but you still get respect from the pilots no matter how they got the commission.Officers feel the same way towards each other as well in many cases according to a good friend from childhood who is an officer in the USAF via ROTC route.I am sure there are plenty of fine people from the AF Academy I and other airmen just had the misfortune of getting to be around the wrong ones at the wrong time.

[Ducimus]

How i fill out forms that ask an inane and idiotic question about sh_t that shouldn't matter:

[Stealhead]

Yeah I bet they send out a hit squad after you each time you put that.

I can see the person looking at the paper work saying "what do I do?"

I have actually seen online applications where the page that asks those questions and claims that it is of no importance it is listed as a "step" meaning if you do not fill it in you app will not go through.

I think they should do interviews over a phone system that also alters the persons voice so you can not tell sex or race by the voice and you also cant see each other that would be interesting.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

How i fill out forms that ask an inane and idiotic question about sh_t that shouldn't matter:

Under "Race" I would suggest writing in "homo sapiens", but the dumbasses who make up such forms would probably think that means you are "gay".

[Feuer Frei!]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

"The only problem would be if it was pushing education from groups of people like the above mentioned poster."

You are referring to Snestorm I assume here? I hope so because if you think that I am a racist you are quite sadly mistaken.Just wanted to clear any confusion if you where referring to me.

Who are you referring to, Sir?
Your post directly after mine.
EDIT: Just saw Anthony W's post, so it's him you were referring to, i assume.

[CaptainMattJ.]

i have no problems with this. Blacks, Woman, Latinos and just about everybody else has one. why cant we?

I mean, my god, Look at this Dream act Bull in california.

[Skybird]

This illustrates why I am against quota rules. To me, it borders, no it oversteps the red line towards racism, and racist segregation in society. Distinctions based on legality, qualification, affordability, okay. But ethnic origin alone?

They should not do this as a reaction to compensate for ethnicity-based quota rules. Instead they should skip quota rules.

there are criterions that should decide whether or not somebody is accepted at university. Intelligence. Compliance with laws, and basic values of the place we talk of. Previous pre-education. Mastery of the language. Generally: competence.

What I can imagine as exclusion criterions, are: lacking qualification, a criminal record that raises doubts over the individual's present state (but do not rule out in general to give somebody a second chance - some deserve it), unbridgable cultural gaps, lacking integration of foreigners and lacking willingness to adapt, a general hostile ideologic background that is incompatible with the community's, ideologies especially of extremist political and religious nature.

Skin colour or gender are none of these criterions. Skin colour and gender alone should neither qualify nor disqualify you.

Again, not all people are equal, and not all people have what it takes, and not all people deserve second or third chances. But skin or hair colour, form of eyes or gender is not what should decide that.