Doncaster Air Museum - July 2011 (rather pic heavy!)

Jimbuna · 07-26-11, 06:49 PM

The second shot is a Westland Whirlwind.

krashkart · 07-26-11, 08:54 PM

BARV = Badass Recreational Vehicle?

Great pics. That Skyhawk has certainly seen some better days.

Edit: What is up with the Canberra on the left?

Stealhead · 07-26-11, 11:10 PM

Nice.Wonder why that Skyhawk has the golden appearance to it?A Hunter one of my all time favorite aircraft I love the lines of that plane the Hunter was a pretty bad dude(Yank tongue for excellent) in its hey day.

Interesting nose on the center Canberra the left most has an interesting set up as well.Any idea what they might have been used for they are obviously radomes of some sort.

EDIT: for the left most one:http://www.bywat.co.uk/wj565.html
for the center one:http://www.100squadronassociation.org.uk/history9.html (looked up the numbers)

Sailor Steve · 07-26-11, 11:14 PM

Nice shots. We all wish some of them were in better shape, but they take what they can get and so do we.

Hottentot · 07-26-11, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

We all wish some of them were in better shape, but they take what they can get and so do we.

It's no magic to make them look better, almost brand new, if that is the goal. But it's not. The thing is that such restoration makes pretty objects and poor history. If you have an old machine and you repair all the dents, give it a new paintscheme and polish it, it basically loses part of its story.

I can only admire museums that collect these machines. The work and space requirements for them must be huge.

Stealhead · 07-27-11, 01:12 AM

I don't fully agree with you here I dont think every unit has to look brand new I like to see something look how it looked in the field when it was on the front lines so to speak it does not have to be perfect but the A-4 for example would need some work.

I think it should look how it looked so to speak not brand new but if it is in really worn out been in a bone yard for 30 years fix it if it has lots a damage/wear.At the same time some examples should look pristine as Sailor Steve mentions.I like museums that have a mixture of both.

joegrundman · 07-27-11, 01:59 AM

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Lighting. Couldn't quite figure out how much of it they had.

you know just outside East Midlands Airport, there's a little open air exhibition with a full Lightning, and a Vulcan, a Buccaneer among others.

http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/e...craftonDisplay

Hottentot · 07-27-11, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

I don't fully agree with you here I dont think every unit has to look brand new I like to see something look how it looked in the field when it was on the front lines so to speak it does not have to be perfect but the A-4 for example would need some work.

Front line schemes are difficult to restore, seeing that there if anywhere the equipment is going to get weathered and worn out. And if we start faking dents and scratches to unique museum objects, then I'm going to protest.

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I think it should look how it looked so to speak not brand new but if it is in really worn out been in a bone yard for 30 years fix it if it has lots a damage/wear.

It depends. There are museums that intentionally show wrecks, because the wreck has something to tell. So does the rust that mirrors 30 years of neglect. New and restored is cool and shows the object in certain light, but it's not the same thing.

And finally, my whole comment was a kneejerk reaction, about which I wish to apologize, Steve. I was just ticked off by the "they take what they can get" remark early in the morning. Then it seemed like saying that museums just salvage some junk that people graciously throw them, which is what some people (likely not you) actually think museums do. In any case, I'm sorry.

TLAM Strike · 07-26-11, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Interesting nose on the center Canberra the left most has an interesting set up as well.Any idea what they might have been used for they are obviously radomes of some sort.

Left one is a for training EW techs on ships and planes to handle jamming from Badger bombers and the like. The center one is for All-Weather Interceptor training for the RIOs (or whatever the Brits call them).

Stealhead · 07-26-11, 11:23 PM

Ha ha you answered my question around the same time I did.
My original post links to the center ones squadron history page if anyone wants to read about it.

Still what gives with that A-4s odd colorization looks kind of like the natural metal layer almost maybe some aged primer or something?

07-26-11, 06:49 PM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,952 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The second shot is a Westland Whirlwind. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-26-11, 08:54 PM	#2
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	BARV = Badass Recreational Vehicle? Great pics. That Skyhawk has certainly seen some better days. Edit: What is up with the Canberra on the left? __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

07-26-11, 11:10 PM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Nice.Wonder why that Skyhawk has the golden appearance to it?A Hunter one of my all time favorite aircraft I love the lines of that plane the Hunter was a pretty bad dude(Yank tongue for excellent) in its hey day. Interesting nose on the center Canberra the left most has an interesting set up as well.Any idea what they might have been used for they are obviously radomes of some sort. EDIT: for the left most one:http://www.bywat.co.uk/wj565.html for the center one:http://www.100squadronassociation.org.uk/history9.html (looked up the numbers) Last edited by Stealhead; 07-26-11 at 11:21 PM.

07-26-11, 11:14 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Nice shots. We all wish some of them were in better shape, but they take what they can get and so do we. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-27-11, 01:12 AM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I don't fully agree with you here I dont think every unit has to look brand new I like to see something look how it looked in the field when it was on the front lines so to speak it does not have to be perfect but the A-4 for example would need some work. I think it should look how it looked so to speak not brand new but if it is in really worn out been in a bone yard for 30 years fix it if it has lots a damage/wear.At the same time some examples should look pristine as Sailor Steve mentions.I like museums that have a mixture of both.

07-26-11, 11:23 PM	#10
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Ha ha you answered my question around the same time I did. My original post links to the center ones squadron history page if anyone wants to read about it. Still what gives with that A-4s odd colorization looks kind of like the natural metal layer almost maybe some aged primer or something?