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Old 07-26-11, 04:40 AM   #1
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Ah when the time comes when living with a handicap gives you unfair advantage over those who do not I say that is a hell of a time.

Surely now isn't it yet.
There are quota rules in place or under preparation in Germany, I am not certain, wehre if you search for a job and talk to an employer you can have a better qualification than somebody else, but you lose to him because he has a handicap that falls under that kind of legislation.

We also are getting women quotas, and migrant quotas. The latter is already decided and practiced in at least one German federal state since shortly, the first is practically decided as well. And the EU wants all that anyway, so if the German attempts fail, the people say no or the parliament rejects it (unlikely anyway), it will be imposed upon us anyway.

Quotas are discrimination. Always. And not against just the one, but against all.
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Old 07-26-11, 04:42 AM   #2
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There are quota rules in place or under preparation in Germany, I am not certain, wehre if you search for a job and talk to an employer you can have a better qualification than somebody else, but you lose to him because he has a handicap that falls under that kind of legislation.

We also are getting women quotas, and migrant quotas. The latter is already decided andpracticed in at least one German federal state, the latter is practically decided as well. And the EU wants all that anyway, so if the German attempts fail, it will be imposed upon us anyway.

Quotas are discrimination. Always. And not against just the one, but against all.
Ah. State sanctioned discrimination. Sounds horrific.
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Old 07-26-11, 05:08 AM   #3
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The guy has no lower legs for god sakes . Let him run with the able bodied runners and beat them all
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Old 07-26-11, 06:34 AM   #4
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The guy has no lower legs for god sakes .
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Let him run with the able bodied runners and beat them all
If a person with no legs at all can easily beat the time of the fastest Kenyan in a marathon should he be in the same race category?


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There are quota rules in place or under preparation in Germany, I am not certain, wehre if you search for a job and talk to an employer you can have a better qualification than somebody else, but you lose to him because he has a handicap that falls under that kind of legislation.
You are not certain because it is bull, it works the other way round you cannot employ a person if the other candidate is better qualified for the job but but disabled......unless of course it comes under the many loopholes where you can turn the better qualified but disabled person down.
There is of course another aspect which you are obviousy confusing into your imaginary one, and that is where under certain terms and conditions there are two equally qualified candidates and only one position.

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Ah. State sanctioned discrimination. Sounds horrific.
Skybird is on about the EU and evil german government....as a basic rule when you get those words together it is time stop and think a minute before you swallow it Castout as 9 times out of 10 it isn't really going to be true.
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You are not certain because it is bull, it works the other way round you cannot employ a person if the other candidate is better qualified for the job but but disabled......unless of course it comes under the many loopholes where you can turn the better qualified but disabled person down.
There is of course another aspect which you are obviousy confusing into your imaginary one, and that is where under certain terms and conditions there are two equally qualified candidates and only one position.
I am not certain which is more amazing.. you utter lack of knowledge, your ignorance, or your hate for Skybird.

Sky, btw is correct when he said that there is a quota for disabled persons, and that these have to be given first consideration. The state of Westphalia has these rules (based on federal law) in place for over 20 years. The addition of migrant workers is just an addendum to what already is in place.

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Old 07-26-11, 09:01 AM   #6
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Sky, btw is correct when he said that there is a quota for disabled persons, and that these have to be given first consideration. The state of Westphalia has these rules (based on federal law) in place for over 20 years. The addition of migrant workers is just an addendum to what already is in place.
The red-red senate in Berlin also has put or wants to put into effect a migrants quota for public services in Berlin, something that the Greens and most of the lefts/socialists want to do on national level, too, even parts of the CDU.

A women quota is being openly threatened by even the current government, consisting of comedians from the former conservative and libertarian parties CDU and FDP.Many successful business women nevertheless speak out against such quotes, calling them counterproductive, discriminating (against women!, because it implies that as women they cannot qualify by themselves for offices), and damaging to companies who may be forced to accept second choice personell for key offices only, due to quota demands.

Especially insane Green politicians like Roth and Ströbele also occasionally demand (repeatedly until today) that Turkish becomes second official language of Germany, equally beside German. Two or three years ago he even demanded the national anthem shall be sung in German and in Turkish, too. While isolated on the second demand, he has quite some support from the Greens and Reds for his first proposal. Green chief demagogues Trittin and Roth also declared that for their party, pushing foreign migrants into germany is just a weapon to win elections by importing their electorate from foreign countries, and that once that they have consoldiated their power that way they want to use iot to destroy the Germaness of Germany. "The more Germany becomes less German, the more I will like it", said either Roth or Trittin on a public appearance. - They never were confronted or challenged about their calls for the deconstruction of Germany. Both are members of the >German< parliament.
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"The more Germany becomes less German, the more I will like it"
And you have that in your government ?
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