The Israeli Chamber Orchestra will break with tradition to play a work by Hitler's fa

Gerald · 07-25-11, 08:28 PM

Rachmaninoff, I prefer better, certainly not German, but great piece of music.

TLAM Strike · 07-25-11, 09:55 PM

Well Wagner did inspire the name of Tom Cruse's plot to kill Hitler.

frau kaleun · 07-25-11, 10:05 PM

I've tried to like Wagner, I really have. Well, to the extent that I listen to about as much of him as I can stand at any one time and then give up. Certain excerpts from his works played as strictly orchestral pieces, I like. But overall I'm in agreement with the quote about him that's usually attributed to Mark Twain: "He has wonderful moments, and terrible quarter hours."

My experience of Wagner usually goes something like this:

*listening to overture*

"Oh hey this sounds pretty good. I think I'm gonna like this one."

*30 minutes later*

"Oh dear god let it end..."

Kinda sad since I'm fond of the heldentenor voices... and Wagner certainly seems to be the premier showcase for them. I had the Ring cycle taped off PBS once with every intention of watching it... and I couldn't get through it.

Oberon · 07-26-11, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Rachmaninoff, I prefer better, certainly not German, but great piece of music.

Same, Wagner is good but hard to follow all the way through, Rachmaninoff flows.
Ippolitov-Ivanov has some nice work too.

Where did our classical music thread go?

Skybird · 07-26-11, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Rachmaninoff, I prefer better, certainly not German, but great piece of music.

3rd piano concert, Argerich, Berlin RSO, Chailly, 1982.

Completely kills me every time I listen to it. And I listen to it often. Not music - an explosion. Argerich did it best, playing like a supernova. Superb orchestra job also.

Skybird · 07-26-11, 07:40 AM

Da war doch was...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=Rachmaninoff

Feuer Frei! · 07-26-11, 07:57 AM

2007! 2 years before i found SUBSIM!

Skybird · 07-26-11, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

2007! 2 years before i found SUBSIM!

And probably ten thousand posts in the lead also.

Gerald · 07-26-11, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Da war doch was...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...t=Rachmaninoff

Sie müssen Ihre Themen seiner besseren nehmen, da Sie oben geschrieben, es ist eine wesentliche Voraussetzung, damit vielleicht Rachmaninoff Faden "lebendig"

Skybird · 07-26-11, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Sie müssen Ihre Themen seiner besseren nehmen, da Sie oben geschrieben, es ist eine wesentliche Voraussetzung, damit vielleicht Rachmaninoff Faden "lebendig"

I know I have asked you that repeatedly in the past, but: pardon, what have you said...?

I did not even get a starting spark for an idea.

Gerald · 07-26-11, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I know I have asked you that repeatedly in the past, but: pardon, what have you said...?

I did not even get a starting spark for an idea.

I said if you make a post, so take care of it and refresh it, if there is a relevant interest,in public

Penguin · 07-26-11, 10:50 AM

Larry David also had this discussion:

Gerald · 07-27-11, 07:09 AM

Yes,yes....Penguin

ZeeWolf · 07-27-11, 11:41 AM

I like Wagner, Beethoven is my favorite. Although
the Israeli Chamber Orchestra my just be sick
of playing all those weeping ,wailing violin hits.
But what I am suspicious about is this my be just
another attempt at showing how "tolerant" they
[Israelis] are. And is a demonstration as to just
how far they are willing to go to keep those
reparations pouring in. That's my opinion.

ZeeWolf

Gerald · 07-27-11, 01:43 PM

Now "happened" to be Wagner, and it could just as easily been this,

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I've tried to like Wagner, I really have. Well, to the extent that I listen to about as much of him as I can stand at any one time and then give up. Certain excerpts from his works played as strictly orchestral pieces, I like. But overall I'm in agreement with the quote about him that's usually attributed to Mark Twain: "He has wonderful moments, and terrible quarter hours." My experience of Wagner usually goes something like this: listening to overture "Oh hey this sounds pretty good. I think I'm gonna like this one." 30 minutes later "Oh dear god let it end..." Kinda sad since I'm fond of the heldentenor voices... and Wagner certainly seems to be the premier showcase for them. I had the Ring cycle taped off PBS once with every intention of watching it... and I couldn't get through it.

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ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	I like Wagner, Beethoven is my favorite. Although the Israeli Chamber Orchestra my just be sick of playing all those weeping ,wailing violin hits. But what I am suspicious about is this my be just another attempt at showing how "tolerant" they [Israelis] are. And is a demonstration as to just how far they are willing to go to keep those reparations pouring in. That's my opinion. ZeeWolf

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Now "happened" to be Wagner, and it could just as easily been this, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie