White House debt talks collapse

gimpy117 · 07-23-11, 11:24 PM

boo hoo! my rich buddies might actually have to pony up a little bit more after a decade of almost unprecedented prosperity! I'm taking my marbles and going home!

just the party of no refusing to compromise on anything. we say black they say white, we say how about a shade of grey and they say no, and precede to hold to USA hostage to get their way. I keep waiting to see if they'll get a clue and realize that a balanced budget and the bush tax cuts is way harder than if we took a more balanced approach.

the sad part is, the Gang of six is going to have to propose a lowering of the top tax rate just to get the debt ceiling raised. I'm sure the uber rich are already rubbing their palms together, because even though they are taxed 35%, they only pay something like 18% effectively ( I myself pay more than that), and with the cuts they may pay 14-16% after this deal (assuming they don't close some major loopholes).

I think it's sad that somebody who makes millions, has shiny cars, big houses...the good life can get away with a lower contribution to a society that has been so good to them than somebody making enough for the lowest tax bracket.

Sailor Steve · 07-23-11, 11:40 PM

Still playing partisan political games, eh Gimpy? Can't resist any opportunity to slam the other side.

gimpy117 · 07-24-11, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Still playing partisan political games, eh Gimpy? Can't resist any opportunity to slam the other side.

Ill stop when you guys stop.

Jimbuna · 07-24-11, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

Ill stop when you guys stop.

Simply wish I understood

Sailor Steve · 07-24-11, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

Ill stop when you guys stop.

"You guys"? I don't like parties, period. I think they're the bane of all governments.

There has been no reference to partisan politics in this thread until you brought it up. It's not that you take one side or the other, it's that your side and your side alone is right and it's always the other guy's fault. That's all you ever say.

gimpy117 · 07-24-11, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

"You guys"? I don't like parties, period. I think they're the bane of all governments.

There has been no reference to partisan politics in this thread until you brought it up. It's not that you take one side or the other, it's that your side and your side alone is right and it's always the other guy's fault. That's all you ever say.

it's more than just me who does this on the board. I don't see you calling out anyone else Steve. I'd be more receptive to to what you are saying if you would actually police the right wing people the way you do me.

now maybe you do tell some of the republicans and right wingers to lay off...but i haven't seen it that i can recall

Rockstar · 07-24-11, 07:06 PM

An unbiased opinion. This is my first look at this thread. I looked at the last page 1st and saw gimpy117 comment. Ho ho! what is this about I say. So I start from the beginning and read.

My observation is it is an international forum discussing government the debt ceiling in general great round of discussion too. I would also like to add that gimpy117 based on your comments you are very much out of touch with it.

gimpy117 · 07-24-11, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

An unbiased opinion. This is my first look at this thread. I looked at the last page 1st and saw gimpy117 comment. Ho ho! what is this about I say. So I start from the beginning and read.

My observation is it is an international forum discussing government the debt ceiling in general great round of discussion too. I would also like to add that gimpy117 based on your comments you are very much out of touch with it.

I was more stating what i felt about the situation. not really trying to argue anything...just commenting

Sailor Steve · 07-24-11, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

it's more than just me who does this on the board. I don't see you calling out anyone else Steve. I'd be more receptive to to what you are saying if you would actually police the right wing people the way you do me.

now maybe you do tell some of the republicans and right wingers to lay off...but i haven't seen it that i can recall

You weren't around for my wars with Subman1. Did you miss my early comments to Bubblehead1980? Who did you have in mind? Most of the right-wingers here sometimes do actually discuss things, only ocassionally dropping into direct diatribe, and when they do I say something. Contribute more than just hit-and-run politics I'll shut up right away.

gimpy117 · 07-24-11, 08:38 PM

you know i do from time to time. But personally: and i'll contribute something here, In this case I feel one side: the democrats are willing to compromise, but republicans are attempting to make that compromise a sort of "give us what we want or we all fall into default". That's what prompted my remarks about situation.

but I still feel that people mistake my comments and feelings on a situation as an argument or solid fact. They are neither, I'll say that right out. So please don't get offended when I express how i feel rather than break it down by the numbers. but again, I have an opinion, a strong one...and im not going to play nice to appease people around here

07-23-11, 11:24 PM	#1
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	boo hoo! my rich buddies might actually have to pony up a little bit more after a decade of almost unprecedented prosperity! I'm taking my marbles and going home! just the party of no refusing to compromise on anything. we say black they say white, we say how about a shade of grey and they say no, and precede to hold to USA hostage to get their way. I keep waiting to see if they'll get a clue and realize that a balanced budget and the bush tax cuts is way harder than if we took a more balanced approach. the sad part is, the Gang of six is going to have to propose a lowering of the top tax rate just to get the debt ceiling raised. I'm sure the uber rich are already rubbing their palms together, because even though they are taxed 35%, they only pay something like 18% effectively ( I myself pay more than that), and with the cuts they may pay 14-16% after this deal (assuming they don't close some major loopholes). I think it's sad that somebody who makes millions, has shiny cars, big houses...the good life can get away with a lower contribution to a society that has been so good to them than somebody making enough for the lowest tax bracket. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army Last edited by gimpy117; 07-23-11 at 11:43 PM.

07-23-11, 11:40 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Still playing partisan political games, eh Gimpy? Can't resist any opportunity to slam the other side. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-24-11, 08:38 PM	#10
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	you know i do from time to time. But personally: and i'll contribute something here, In this case I feel one side: the democrats are willing to compromise, but republicans are attempting to make that compromise a sort of "give us what we want or we all fall into default". That's what prompted my remarks about situation. but I still feel that people mistake my comments and feelings on a situation as an argument or solid fact. They are neither, I'll say that right out. So please don't get offended when I express how i feel rather than break it down by the numbers. but again, I have an opinion, a strong one...and im not going to play nice to appease people around here __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

07-24-11, 07:06 PM	#7
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	An unbiased opinion. This is my first look at this thread. I looked at the last page 1st and saw gimpy117 comment. Ho ho! what is this about I say. So I start from the beginning and read. My observation is it is an international forum discussing government the debt ceiling in general great round of discussion too. I would also like to add that gimpy117 based on your comments you are very much out of touch with it.