The 9th Circus got one right!!!

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Absolutely.

i feel bad for people like you

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

So should we just piss all over the 1st amendment because someone might actually do something? This guy was talking trash and should not have even been arrested.Just glad the circus recongized that.

Anthony said that this sort of thing was against the odds. I feel that history demonstrates that this is not true. Your point creates a strawman argument in that I said nothing of the sort that you are suggesting.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Anthony said that this sort of thing was against the odds. I feel that history demonstrates that this is not true. Your point creates a strawman argument in that I said nothing of the sort that you are suggesting.

Then... Maybe the President should listen to the people (everyone - not just his side of the aisle - most people from the other side will not both going to one of those rallies so that idea is out) so people don't want to kill him? Professionals estimated the Washington DC national Tea Party rally had over 1.3 million people - the pres. brushed it off and put out a story that there were only 300,000 (it takes more than 300,000 to fill the national mall till people can't move like they did). I'm not going to say whether or not I agree with what the protesters were saying - but the pres. should not have ignored it like he did.

People will get insanely angry when the officials aren't listening to them.

Am I saying its okay for people to call for murder? No. Not at all. What I am saying is that it shouldn't be federally illegal. Besides, I think that the people who would really murder a president are the ones that would NOT be screaming it in the streets and over the internet...

[August]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Then... Maybe the President should listen to the people (everyone - not just his side of the aisle - most people from the other side will not both going to one of those rallies so that idea is out) so people don't want to kill him? Professionals estimated the Washington DC national Tea Party rally had over 1.3 million people - the pres. brushed it off and put out a story that there were only 300,000 (it takes more than 300,000 to fill the national mall till people can't move like they did). I'm not going to say whether or not I agree with what the protesters were saying - but the pres. should not have ignored it like he did.

There will always be someone who wants to kill the President. There is nothing a President can do, including doing nothing, that would keep him safe from every nut that is out there.

Regardless of what or who the president ignores there is no justification for death threats.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by August

There will always be someone who wants to kill the President. There is nothing a President can do, including doing nothing, that would keep him safe from every nut that is out there.

Regardless of what or who the president ignores there is no justification for death threats.

Agreed - but maybe we need to make a distinction that the 9th circuit may or may not have. Isn't there a difference between "Someone should kill the president." and "I'm going to kill the president."

The first is just an opinion. The second is a direct threat - and that should be illegal.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Maybe the President should listen to the people ... so people don't want to kill him?

So, using threats of violence to influence national policy?

Isn't that the very definition of terrorism?

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by razark

So, using threats of violence to influence national policy?

Isn't that the very definition of terrorism?

Ehh - just a bit of my discontent coming out. I was at that rally.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Morts

i feel bad for people like you

I find what he said repgunant but it is his right to say what he did, plain and simple.Would I say it? no! but again that is his right under the US Constitution.I see you that hail from Denmark so you may not be aware of what kooks the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals usually are.They have handed down some really outlandish decisions over the years but they finally got this one right.Nice to see their not the rigid left wing hacks they seem to be at times.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Personally, I don't think it is even that repugnant if the fella really feels that strongly against Obama.

Let's face it, considering the responsibility placed on them and how many people their decisions can affect, Presidents and other high officials really get it off easy. Wreck the economy and put one million people out of work, worst thing that really happens to him is he doesn't get re-elected. Big deal.

Meanwhile, some lowly criminal that hurts ONE guy gets prison and a conviction record.

There is no way to completely equalize this disparity, but a risk of death for failure would be a start.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Then... Maybe the President should listen to the people (everyone - not just his side of the aisle - most people from the other side will not both going to one of those rallies so that idea is out) so people don't want to kill him? Professionals estimated the Washington DC national Tea Party rally had over 1.3 million people - the pres. brushed it off and put out a story that there were only 300,000 (it takes more than 300,000 to fill the national mall till people can't move like they did). I'm not going to say whether or not I agree with what the protesters were saying - but the pres. should not have ignored it like he did.

People will get insanely angry when the officials aren't listening to them.

Am I saying its okay for people to call for murder? No. Not at all. What I am saying is that it shouldn't be federally illegal. Besides, I think that the people who would really murder a president are the ones that would NOT be screaming it in the streets and over the internet...

I am fairly certain that the so-called Tea Party and it's rallies have nothing to do with death threats against the President of the United States, or so we have been told over and over again by their pundits. That is, of course, unless you would like to challenge that assertion.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I am fairly certain that the so-called Tea Party and it's rallies have nothing to do with death threats against the President of the United States, or so we have been told over and over again by their pundits. That is, of course, unless you would like to challenge that assertion.

Not by any means. I just used them as an example to highlight the disconnect.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Let's face it, considering the responsibility placed on them and how many people their decisions can affect, Presidents and other high officials really get it off easy. Wreck the economy and put one million people out of work, worst thing that really happens to him is he doesn't get re-elected. Big deal.

In fairness, the American economy was in shambles well before Barack Obama took office. His failing lies within the fact that his administration's efforts have not made ground in turning things around as he promised they would. I would be giving him the benefit of the doubt even if there was evidence of growth; it will take many years to fully recover. However, things continue to look as grim as they did before he took office. For that he must, and will, answer to the American voter. If he is able to make the case for himself, he will be re-elected. If his opponent is able to make the better case, then he will not be.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Not by any means. I just used them as an example to highlight the disconnect.

Or perceived disconnect, depending on your point of view. Much relativism in politics.

Then... Maybe the President should listen to the people

Indeed, so does that mean that .50cals should be supplied to the people for shooting cars of "******s"? After all just look at the video and see how they would burn

People will get insanely angry when the officials aren't listening to them.

yes, because the president is a "******" and "sambo" is and always has been good for nothing........enough to make you mad eh?

I just used them as an example to highlight the disconnect.

So when people have been saying the tea party contains quite a lot of racists and idiots you use a topic about a racist idiot to sing the virtues of the tea party and the disconnect of the populace

I was at that rally.

Were you really?
Are you sure you wasn't riding a unicycle while carrying an elephant for which you were inventing a laser beam as an eye?

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Indeed, so does that mean that .50cals should be supplied to the people for shooting cars of "******s"? After all just look at the video and see how they would burn

yes, because the president is a "******" and "sambo" is and always has been good for nothing........enough to make you mad eh?


So when people have been saying the tea party contains quite a lot of racists and idiots you use a topic about a racist idiot to sing the virtues of the tea party and the disconnect of the populace


Were you really?
Are you sure you wasn't riding a unicycle while carrying an elephant for which you were inventing a laser beam as an eye?

The fact that the keynote speaker for the rally I was at was in fact an African American proves everything you just said wrong. In fact, there are actually a lot of African American members of the Tea Party. In fact, if you ever find yourself in the US, come to one of them. Good music, good food, good people.