Are passenger/cargo ships viable targets?

Paul Riley · 07-18-11, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapt Z

I'm in a IIa myself at the start of the war(Oct 39) and I believe I received a message ordering us to not sink passenger ships. In the spirit of 'realism' I will not sink any until I hear otherwise.

Once I get the go ahead? Anything flying a Allied flag, short of a hospital ship, is toast.

Yes,come to think of it I also recall recieving messages regarding refraining from attacking passenger ships,until of course we get the green light.
Thanks

sublynx · 07-18-11, 12:57 PM

Here's an excerpt from BdU's War Diary on the second of October, 1939 (taken from U-boat archive.net):

"A further order from Naval War Staff states:

Ships which, in the view of the C.O., are equipped to carry more than 120 passengers, are to be regarded as passenger ships. M.D.V. 87 (T.N.: German Naval official publication) explains this further. The main points to note are the number of boats - 4 or more each side of the ship, length and number of promenade decks, bull's eyes.

Boats were instructed on these orders.

The term "passenger ship" is a very wide one, and its final definition left to the C.O.'s impressions. It must be realized that in practice this order is open to very wide interpretation, especially as the submerged boat's powers of observation are limited."

So you're good to go if you wish to. I think the 2000 GRT passenger/cargo in GWX is a small passenger ship, but under 120 passengers. I don't think there was much civilian traffic during the war, but if you want to give time for their evacuation you could try to hit the ship in a way that would sink the ship slowly. (Avoid hitting the bow or the keel and not too deep.)

frau kaleun · 07-18-11, 12:57 PM

The game doesn't care, as long as it's not a friendly or neutral.

Any inclination not to sink one would be purely subjective or a way to enhance realism by following the "orders" from BdU.

And IIRC those buggers are hard to take down...

...so it may be smarter to save your ammo for a juicier target anyway.

Personally I tend to focus on the "cargo" part of their designation, so the "passenger" part of it doesn't really deter me.

07-18-11, 12:57 PM	#2
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	Here's an excerpt from BdU's War Diary on the second of October, 1939 (taken from U-boat archive.net): "A further order from Naval War Staff states: Ships which, in the view of the C.O., are equipped to carry more than 120 passengers, are to be regarded as passenger ships. M.D.V. 87 (T.N.: German Naval official publication) explains this further. The main points to note are the number of boats - 4 or more each side of the ship, length and number of promenade decks, bull's eyes. Boats were instructed on these orders. The term "passenger ship" is a very wide one, and its final definition left to the C.O.'s impressions. It must be realized that in practice this order is open to very wide interpretation, especially as the submerged boat's powers of observation are limited." So you're good to go if you wish to. I think the 2000 GRT passenger/cargo in GWX is a small passenger ship, but under 120 passengers. I don't think there was much civilian traffic during the war, but if you want to give time for their evacuation you could try to hit the ship in a way that would sink the ship slowly. (Avoid hitting the bow or the keel and not too deep.) __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

07-18-11, 12:57 PM	#3
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	The game doesn't care, as long as it's not a friendly or neutral. Any inclination not to sink one would be purely subjective or a way to enhance realism by following the "orders" from BdU. And IIRC those buggers are hard to take down... ...so it may be smarter to save your ammo for a juicier target anyway. Personally I tend to focus on the "cargo" part of their designation, so the "passenger" part of it doesn't really deter me.