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Old 07-15-11, 06:05 AM   #16
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I don't know about global conspiracy but I do know a thing or two about elitist mentality from my ordeal in Singapore.

I'm well aware that people who have been in power for too long and in control of vast amount of resources consider everybody else as simply nothing. They play God and this is no exaggeration.
No matter how an individual identifies this I think the outcome is the same in the end,we are pretty much living in a time where a global fasicst empire seeks to imprison humans forever.Radical I know,but sometimes the 'probable' truth is.
Nonetheless this is a fascinating subject that all should get involved in on some level,after all,we are all in the same pan of s##t here
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Old 07-15-11, 06:12 AM   #17
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The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact. George Orwell
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Old 07-15-11, 06:28 AM   #18
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I love this video.
Prepare for Ragnarok friends,the time is likely nearly here,and I cant wait as I stand beside the gods...one last time
at 1:06 - it would be wise to take heed of this warning
at 1:42 - look at all the recent tectonic activity around the world lately
at 2:09 - interesting that a lot of these earthquakes recently have occured far out to sea resulting in large tsunamis.
at 2:30 - could this indicate some threat from space,resulting in new deadly viruses that would affect the Earth and all upon it? Bio Weapons? alien/reptilian invasion? (I know the reactions to this one already) .You must admit though,in practically EVERY ancient culture reptilian gods/beings do feature quite heavily.
at 4:08 - could this indicate the very fabric of our solar system becoming unstable,some sort of massive energy/dimensional shift/displacement as we head nearer to the galactic centre,the last time being approx 26,000 years ago stated by the ancient Maya,culminating in or around Dec 2012-2013.Huge solar storms HAVE been predicted for about that time by Nasa that could disrupt the Earth's energy grid and even destroy satellites in space.

Only those true of heart will be able to withstand the glory of the heavens and its inhabitants (I am NOT Christian in my belief system)

It is the arrogance and stupidity of modern man to think our ancestors were dim witted barbarians that thought of nothing but war and beer! (we shall see)
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Old 07-15-11, 08:23 AM   #19
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Can't deny it, there have been a lot of earthquakes lately. Heck, there was one off Portsmouth the other day, small one but the first since the 1800s.

I don't think it's some kind of giant buildup to doomsday though, and even if it is, all it will mean is the destruction of a lot of humanity, which is...in the long term...not such a bad thing.

You see, if current trends continue then we are heading for our own doomsday scenario anyway, just as inevitably as night follows day. Most of us here will not see it but we can already see the beginnings of it. Food prices are rising and so is the population, some people are living longer, death rates in LEDCs are decreasing from their rates of say seventy years ago. Oil is being pumped out of the ground at increasing rates as we scramble to find more drilling sites. Eventually it's going to run out, that much is a certainty.

Now, unless someone discovers a way of making fuel and food from nothing for a low price within the next twenty or thirty years, then things are going to start getting ugly, not just between classes (the have and have nots) but also between countries, over food, water and fuel. Some people might argue that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the current campaign in Libya is directly motivated by oil, thus ticking that box.
Eventually there will be a crunch period where we do not produce enough food or water to feed the population, this has already occurred in some countries, Somalia for one, through natural events, and the inhabitants of the Kenyan/Somalian border will tell you that it's having a big effect on their lives, however some aid is able to be given because other nations have food surplus that they are able to donate...now imagine what would happen if there was now food surplus, that charity began at home and aid agencies found themselves increasingly underfunded in terms of money and food donations? Famine on a scale not seen in modern times, LEDCs descending into tribal chaos as they raid neighbouring countries for their food and water. Will this extend upwards? Will MEDCs have to put population controls in place to lower birth rates? Will voluntary euthanasia of the elderly become more common? Attitudes towards life and death will change because they will have to change, but of course, naturally, the rich will reap the benefits of the suffering of the poor...and in some countries this will result in uprisings and civil war, stricter governments will be necessary to enforce unpopular measures, democracy will be a thing for the rich, the poor will just have to get on with their lives with what increasingly little they have.

Now, I could be wrong with that trend extending upwards. It could be that the resumption of high death rates in LEDCs will balance out the longer lifespans in MEDCs, or alternatively a disease could come along and solve the problem naturally, the planet has a habit of doing things like that. Certainly the poor in most MEDCs are better off now than they were a century ago, however our drain on resources is a hundred times greater now than it was a century ago, and our living standards depend on that resource drain, for electricity for our computers, for oil for our plastics, for cheap water for our drinks and bathing. Such drains cannot continue indefinitely from a finite resource, that much is certain, so something will have to give, however I am no soothsayer, I cannot be sure exactly what it is that will give.

Of course, going back to diseases, now that it is a smaller world in terms of transportation and migration, then yes we are going to see an increase of disease, perhaps even to the extent of a new pandemic, however one has to consider that since the bird and swine flu outbreaks of recent years, most governments have become quite acutely aware of the weaknesses of their designs, and with any luck will become a bit more like the President of Madagascar in terms of disease control (SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING).
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Old 07-15-11, 10:23 AM   #20
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Hmm not really just that in my observation younger generation is always worse than the older one.
Funny, I remember my father saying the same thing about me. I also remember him telling me that his father told him the same thing too.

I guess every "older" generation feels that a "younger" generation is going to hell in a handbasket. But somehow we seem to survive.

Just wait until the Generation Z (or what ever letter we are up to) gets to be my age, I bet they will be saying the same thing about the next younger generation (will they start the alphabet all over again?)
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Old 07-15-11, 10:44 AM   #21
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The day we run out of luxury soft toilet paper.


Most likely use up all the earth's resources and good night.
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Old 07-15-11, 10:47 AM   #22
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The really are only ever two things to worry about in life: Whether you're sick, or well.
If you're well, there's nothing to worry over.
If you're sick, there is only ever two things to worry about: Whether you live, or die.
If you live, there's nothing to worry over.
If you die, you've really only ever two things to worry about: Whether it's to Heaven you go, or Hell.
If it's Heaven, there's nothing to worry over.
If it's Hell, you'll be so busy reuniting with old friends, you'll not have time to worry.
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I can just imagine some alien historian writing the history of our planet. I wonder if the Humans would be included in the list of unsuccessful species?

I would tend to think so.
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Old 07-15-11, 10:53 AM   #24
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We lost one of history's great philosophers when he died.
I agree, he was great.
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I'm not concerned with the end of the world. We each will have our own end of the world that is death.

If end of the world scenario is to happen during my lifetime I will probably be grateful to be able to witness it. Hey it's a big event.

What I am concerned with is the general demoralization of the world population. Not talking about strict morality but more about attitude and ideology towards living and being decent person.

More and more people( more even for the young) are becoming simply put selfish bastard idiot who worship their own ego and themselves. They will make the end of the world happen in their lifetime if their numbers keep increasing to majority of world's population. People now lie lightly, they deceive and are generally dishonest both in relationships and business. They are unashamed for the shameful and wrongful things they do and even proud of them. They are cruel, uncaring, ungrateful and rude towards other people. They live as if they know everything but in actuality they know nothing. They may even be religious but they honor mere rituals and people based on stature than honoring God and God's laws. They cheat on everything they do and proud of it. They take no advice and are disrespectful towards other people. They believe that right or wrong is relative and have no moral and religious principle. They blame other people for their own mistakes.

They are fools. Childish fools. Unpolished even rough people. Failing mankind I call them. A plague judging by their numbers. Trash that needs to be wiped out out of existence. Undeserving of time in this life and undeserving of other people time, friendship and affection. Undeveloped even regressed people. Predator of his fellow man. Mere animal in a human skin even worse than animal because they are mankind. A sad excuse for man's fallibility.

I am even convinced it's in their DNA not just a set of mind but a set of genes. A deteriorating mankind. Functional chaos. Defective. Defect.
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Some of you people either need to get laid, or just off yourselves to help in your small way to solve the problem.

We don't appreciate what we have.

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Is this guy a professional comedian? I never heard of him.

He ain't no George Carlin that's for sure.
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I don't think we'll go out with a whimper. I believe it'll be a bang.

"Hey cool, full moon in the daytime... ... hmm, that doesn't look like the moon and why is it getting bigger? Oh crap.........."
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Is this guy a professional comedian? I never heard of him.
Me neither.

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He ain't no George Carlin that's for sure.
True, but neither was Carlin after about 1990. He went from being a funny, whimsically different sort of comedian to being a bitter, curmudgeonly old crank. I think I stopped liking him when his hair turned white.

I looked at some of the other skits by Louis CK, and he is funny.
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Me neither.


True, but neither was Carlin after about 1990. He went from being a funny, whimsically different sort of comedian to being a bitter, curmudgeonly old crank. I think I stopped liking him when his hair turned white.
I agree with this. He started to sound luke a grumpy old man. But earlier, he was spot on, like this one on saving the planet.

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