Is SH5 awful?

thefarside · 07-15-11, 07:13 AM

Hello there, shipmates. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I haven't found anything.

I have played SH3 & 4, both of which I very much enjoyed, but it was some time ago. I played SH4 1-2 years ago, and I loved it, but recently I tried installing SH3, but it didn't seem to work at all.

Now, I am interested in SH5, but all the reviews seem to agree on it being lousy. I realize, however, that these reviews were written when the game was new and with no regards to the mods that (hopefully) are out there today.

Now, more than a year later, I wonder what has happened. Is it patched and modded towards perfection? What mods are a must?

Is SH5, today, comparable to SH3 in terms of immersion and non-graphic realism?

radcapricorn · 07-15-11, 07:35 AM

The stock game is arcade, not a sim IMHO. But mods change everything. You can see for yourself in these videos.

As for "necessary mods", try sober's excellent recommendations and this thread. TheDarkWraith's NewUIs is a must for sure.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-15-11, 07:38 AM

It is a pretty game, and the mods have made it much, much better than stock. For the price you can pick it up now it's worth a punt

And welcome aboard

mookiemookie · 07-15-11, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thefarside

I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I haven't found anything.

Pretty much every other thread in the SH5 forum asks the same question. I suggest browsing a couple pages back and you'll see many many threads full comments about the state of the game.

Takeda Shingen · 07-15-11, 08:06 AM

No, SH5 is not awful.

Krauter · 07-15-11, 08:07 AM

Our search system must be awful since no one uses it

Herr-Berbunch · 07-15-11, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Our search system must be awful since no one uses it

It's not the best. Googling with site:subsim.com added brings up better results. Although as mookiemookie said, just browsing back a page or two would've yielded enough results.

Krauter · 07-15-11, 08:24 AM

True it may not be good enough for searching for a precise thread, but for a grand question like this (literally asked hundreds if not thousands of times...) would yield at least enough results to answer a question without warranting a thread..

thefarside · 07-15-11, 09:47 AM

Very well. I confess. Let's end this charade. I did not look very far before creating this thread.

However, I am still struggling to find the answers to what made the initial SH5 so poor, and whether or not it is fixed to this date + does it only require patching for it to be compared to SH3, or is modding the answer?

Cap'n Blake · 07-15-11, 10:20 AM

No, its not awful im actually having a blast with patched stock version. I also liked sh3&4 and i kind of like the different approach devs took with sh5, meaning more involving campaign and somehow better connection with the crew & boat. Of course there are bad things here and there, but as i got it with 7.5e i really saw no reason to wait anymore.

thefarside · 07-15-11, 10:48 AM

I've made up my mind, I will go in to town and buy it tomorrow. Hopefully, I know what mods to acquire by then.

joea · 07-15-11, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

No, SH5 is not awful.

Not anymore.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-15-11, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefarside

I've made up my mind, I will go in to town and buy it tomorrow. Hopefully, I know what mods to acquire by then.

If you can wait a few days before getting your mits on it, get it from Amazon via the SUBSIM Store link and the site gets a chunk.

Ducimus · 07-15-11, 11:38 AM

This game has an appeal of its own, but IMO it still has a ways to go.

Personnally i think some things that have been fixed in previous titles haven't been where they should be on the priority list. For example, last i played, battery recharge times were still borked. I explained howt to fix it in racerboy's (aka TDW) supermod thread, and has anyone here fixed it yet in SH5? I doubt it.

I'm giving the game time. Honestly, i wont try to play it again for another 8 to 12 months. Then i'll give it another go.

kiwi_2005 · 07-15-11, 12:00 PM

^ And the craziness of the convoys I've come across convoys in the north Atlantic - with 20 odd merchants nothing wrong with that right, but whats wrong is the number of escorts (20-30) last convoy I counted 22 escorts & destroyers protecting the convoy I even took screenshots if no one believes me. I thought how the hell am I going to get inside this convoy and attack when its got that many escorts protecting them! Oh wait this is SH5 should be no problem.

And it wasn't a problem getting in attacking and then getting out.

But was there that many escorts protecting convoys?

07-15-11, 07:13 AM	#1
thefarside Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Is SH5 awful? Hello there, shipmates. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I haven't found anything. I have played SH3 & 4, both of which I very much enjoyed, but it was some time ago. I played SH4 1-2 years ago, and I loved it, but recently I tried installing SH3, but it didn't seem to work at all. Now, I am interested in SH5, but all the reviews seem to agree on it being lousy. I realize, however, that these reviews were written when the game was new and with no regards to the mods that (hopefully) are out there today. Now, more than a year later, I wonder what has happened. Is it patched and modded towards perfection? What mods are a must? Is SH5, today, comparable to SH3 in terms of immersion and non-graphic realism? Last edited by thefarside; 07-15-11 at 09:35 AM.

07-15-11, 07:38 AM	#3
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	It is a pretty game, and the mods have made it much, much better than stock. For the price you can pick it up now it's worth a punt And welcome aboard __________________

07-15-11, 12:00 PM	#15
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	^ And the craziness of the convoys I've come across convoys in the north Atlantic - with 20 odd merchants nothing wrong with that right, but whats wrong is the number of escorts (20-30) last convoy I counted 22 escorts & destroyers protecting the convoy I even took screenshots if no one believes me. I thought how the hell am I going to get inside this convoy and attack when its got that many escorts protecting them! Oh wait this is SH5 should be no problem. And it wasn't a problem getting in attacking and then getting out. But was there that many escorts protecting convoys? __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

07-15-11, 07:35 AM	#2
radcapricorn Helmsman Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 105 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	The stock game is arcade, not a sim IMHO. But mods change everything. You can see for yourself in these videos. As for "necessary mods", try sober's excellent recommendations and this thread. TheDarkWraith's NewUIs is a must for sure.

07-15-11, 08:06 AM	#5
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	No, SH5 is not awful.

07-15-11, 09:47 AM	#9
thefarside Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Very well. I confess. Let's end this charade. I did not look very far before creating this thread. However, I am still struggling to find the answers to what made the initial SH5 so poor, and whether or not it is fixed to this date + does it only require patching for it to be compared to SH3, or is modding the answer?

07-15-11, 10:20 AM	#10
Cap'n Blake Watch Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 21 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No, its not awful im actually having a blast with patched stock version. I also liked sh3&4 and i kind of like the different approach devs took with sh5, meaning more involving campaign and somehow better connection with the crew & boat. Of course there are bad things here and there, but as i got it with 7.5e i really saw no reason to wait anymore.

07-15-11, 10:48 AM	#11
thefarside Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I've made up my mind, I will go in to town and buy it tomorrow. Hopefully, I know what mods to acquire by then.

07-15-11, 11:38 AM	#14
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	This game has an appeal of its own, but IMO it still has a ways to go. Personnally i think some things that have been fixed in previous titles haven't been where they should be on the priority list. For example, last i played, battery recharge times were still borked. I explained howt to fix it in racerboy's (aka TDW) supermod thread, and has anyone here fixed it yet in SH5? I doubt it. I'm giving the game time. Honestly, i wont try to play it again for another 8 to 12 months. Then i'll give it another go.