Looking To Buy My First Rifle... - Page 5

TorpX · 07-13-11, 10:50 PM

Take your time, think about it a little, you don't have to buy it today, right?

Anthony W. · 07-13-11, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Take your time, think about it a little, you don't have to buy it today, right?

Yeah, I've got a year.

Would a recent history of clinical depression (post traumatic stress disorder) keep me from getting a conceal carry permit?

antikristuseke · 07-13-11, 11:57 PM

It might and it probably should, just my two cents.

TorpX · 07-14-11, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Yeah, I've got a year.

Would a recent history of clinical depression (post traumatic stress disorder) keep me from getting a conceal carry permit?

You would have to check into your state's laws to know. In Illinois, we must get a FOID card to buy or possess any firearm. There are questions related to mental illness and other things. It has been a long time since I bought one, so I can't remember what they are (and the laws have changed). Also, no one in IL can carry. We are the only state now, according to the press, that doesn't have concealed carry. The FOID merely makes it legal to buy/ own a firearm and ammunition. You may also have local laws that are more restrictive. Until very recently, Chicago more or less, prohibited ownership of firearms, altogether.

Anthony W. · 07-14-11, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

It might and it probably should, just my two cents.

I'm over it now, but I HAD it - not anymore - my twin bro died right in front of me in 2008 so I had to deal with that up until last year.

antikristuseke · 07-14-11, 01:35 AM

I am not fit to judge anyones mental well being, let alone over the internets after a brief encounter. What I was getting at was that if a person is still suffering from post traumatic stress that then they should not be issued a concealed carry permit.

If you have gotten over your loss or not is really no place for me to judge.

Castout · 07-14-11, 02:17 AM

Frau forgot this

Keep one under the pillow just in case.

and with some ingenuity

And a hammer and a football helmet.

And . . .

An icepick

Seriously now,
The car alarm could be handy. Turn it on when you found people breaking into your home.

But...since she is in apartment well . . . .back to frying pan and its 'friends'.

frau kaleun · 07-14-11, 07:29 AM

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Nobody around here would ever bother with one of those. We know better. Because that's a Bengals helmet, and therefore useless when it comes to defense and offense.

Penguin · 07-14-11, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I have a Browning High Power, Customized to my likeing for home defense.
I prep the ammo myself.
I start with a Hollow point and cut an X into it ( not all the way to the bottom of the Hollow Point.)
This insures the round does maximum damage.
I add a drop of Mercury then wax coat that.

Does this influence the ballistic attributes of the bullet? Not that it really really matters at a short distance, but I am curious if you can see a difference in the longer, 50-100 yard, distance.

Feuer Frei! · 07-14-11, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Does this influence the ballistic attributes of the bullet? Not that it really really matters at a short distance, but I am curious if you can see a difference in the longer, 50-100 yard, distance.

http://yarchive.net/gun/ammo/mercury_in_bullet.html

The theory or rather concept behind this is to increase its lethality by poisoning.
As the projectile impacts it expands and breaks up and deposits the mercury.
I'm assuming it gives it a slightly higher impact energy, since mercury is heavier than lead.
Certainly negligible though.
But then again wouldn't the mercury vaporize as it exited the barrel?

Penguin · 07-14-11, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

http://yarchive.net/gun/ammo/mercury_in_bullet.html

The theory or rather concept behind this is to increase its lethality by poisoning.
As the projectile impacts it expands and breaks up and deposits the mercury.
I'm assuming it gives it a slightly higher impact energy, since mercury is heavier than lead.
Certainly negligible though.
But then again wouldn't the mercury vaporize as it exited the barrel?

Interesting link, thanks. So I guess you have to somehow seal the parts of the bullets you don't want to "amalgan"
I didn't quote all of privateer's post, he mentioned that the bullets don't explode like in the movies.
The mercury would definitely vaporize alone by the air friction if it would not be coated. I am not sure however if a wax coating is sufficent to protect it. Sure, the (copper) casing will take most of the heat of the fired bullet, however the question is how hot the tip of the projectile gets.
Those guys (http://www.goinfrared.com/media/www_...org_bullet.pdf) measured the temperature of bullet, fired from an AR15, at 267° C (513°F), shortly after it left the barrel. This would melt wax, if the tip is this hot.

However in this article about gunshot wounds (http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum...unshot-wounds/) they state that bullets don't get hot enough to kill bacterias on it

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All gunshot wounds are contaminated with bacteria. On occasion one still hears the myth that bullets reach such a high temperature in the gun barrel that they are sterilized by being fired. This was proved false by LaGarde in 1892 [47] , whose findings were more recently verified by Thoresby and Darlow. [48]

This would contradict the theory that wax would melt.
We'll have to wait what privateer says, as he certainly tested this in practice

Armistead · 07-14-11, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Pistol grip 12gauge shot gun with short legal barrel is the ticket if it's legal in your state.

I keep it barrel pointed down within reach of my side of bed.

Yep, I have several, but keep a pistol grip 12 gauge auto under my bed. If it's home protection and you wake up half asleep you want something you can point in the general direction and get a hit. I would hate to shoot a burglar with my 3006, being doing a lot of wall repair through several walls.

TLAM Strike · 07-14-11, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout

An icepick

Worked on Trotsky... well it took a few days for him to die but it worked...

Oberon · 07-14-11, 11:31 AM

Probably wouldn't hurt to get yourself a high powered spotlight of sorts, so if you hear people in the barn you hit the switch and flood the barn with god alone knows how many watts of illumination. Firstly it'll give you a clearer image of what's going on, and secondly it'll screw their night-vision and obscure you, thus helping to increase your ambush options.
Just watch it with whatever you choose that it doesn't wind up hitting one of the horses, I'd wager that they're not cheap, in fact some horses are more expensive than firearms (and if it's a Shetland pony, probably more deadly).

Heck, for that pure Ranch look, get a Winchester repeating rifle.

Task Force · 07-14-11, 11:39 AM

Forget rifles, thats so late 19th century!

Get a set of these! that will keep people off your lawn!!! And its good in traffic jams.

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TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Take your time, think about it a little, you don't have to buy it today, right?

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I am not fit to judge anyones mental well being, let alone over the internets after a brief encounter. What I was getting at was that if a person is still suffering from post traumatic stress that then they should not be issued a concealed carry permit. If you have gotten over your loss or not is really no place for me to judge.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Probably wouldn't hurt to get yourself a high powered spotlight of sorts, so if you hear people in the barn you hit the switch and flood the barn with god alone knows how many watts of illumination. Firstly it'll give you a clearer image of what's going on, and secondly it'll screw their night-vision and obscure you, thus helping to increase your ambush options. Just watch it with whatever you choose that it doesn't wind up hitting one of the horses, I'd wager that they're not cheap, in fact some horses are more expensive than firearms (and if it's a Shetland pony, probably more deadly). Heck, for that pure Ranch look, get a Winchester repeating rifle.