Round Convoys?

frau kaleun · 07-12-11, 05:17 PM

GWX removes the red/blue/green color coding from the game so that all units show up as black icons on the map. There is a mod that returns the colors (as well as navigational tails) for those who want them back.

In stock, units are color coded blue=friendly, red=enemy, green=neutral.

If you're playing GWX3 and haven't modded any colors back in for planes/ships/etc., everything should be black. Not sure about the round icon for the convoy as a whole - the only time I've seen a round icon on the map was the small one that indicates a sub.

@Paul: Wolfpacks are not part of stock or GWX and I don't think they've ever been implemented in other supermods without causing problems elsewhere, but h.sie (with help from a score of other modders) has been trying to figure out a way to put them into into the game successfully. The idea is to have something get spawned, even if it's not a u-boat you ever see, that will show up and attack a convoy you have reported and draw the attention of some of the escorts. The last time I checked his thread for realism and gameplay hardcoded fixes that was his primary interest ATM.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225

f4wildweasel · 07-12-11, 05:24 PM

yeah i didn't think wolf-packs were in GWX... One other idea i thought of was that a random ai u-boat was patrolling the waters and bumped into the convoy when the contact report went out, making it show up as large (multiple ships), circular (because the u-boat was there), and blue (the u-boat being allied). Sometimes I'll see convoys where some ships are on fire or taking on water, especially when they showed up on my contact reports as a circle. Once in the Med I was closing into a convoy when my hydrophones picked up another u-boat. The AI type VII sailed into it on the surface and began attacking with its deck gun (damaging a destroyer before being sent down by British gunfire). So while there are no wolf-packs, it could be a single ai u-boat doing a surface action on a convoy while the contact report went out.
Edit: in my defense, WetOne hadn't posted when I started typing this. Didn't mean for a redundant post to happen.

Sailor Steve · 07-12-11, 06:01 PM

Sometimes there will be an AI u-boat stalking the convoy. When this happens it is made the lead ship, so the convoy is identified that way. Round circles are submarines, and blue is friendly. When you see that you know there will be another u-boat there.

frau kaleun · 07-12-11, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sometimes there will be an AI u-boat stalking the convoy. When this happens it is made the lead ship, so the convoy is identified that way. Round circles are submarines, and blue is friendly. When you see that you know there will be another u-boat there.

Good to know. Haven't seen that yet so it's something to be on the lookout for.

Missing Name · 07-13-11, 01:29 AM

I've seen this a couple of times as well. Usually there would be a ship or two with shell damage.

Fish In The Water · 07-12-11, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

...but h.sie (with help from a score of other modders) has been trying to figure out a way to put them into into the game successfully.

A work in progress, still hoping for the best.

07-12-11, 05:24 PM	#2
f4wildweasel Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	yeah i didn't think wolf-packs were in GWX... One other idea i thought of was that a random ai u-boat was patrolling the waters and bumped into the convoy when the contact report went out, making it show up as large (multiple ships), circular (because the u-boat was there), and blue (the u-boat being allied). Sometimes I'll see convoys where some ships are on fire or taking on water, especially when they showed up on my contact reports as a circle. Once in the Med I was closing into a convoy when my hydrophones picked up another u-boat. The AI type VII sailed into it on the surface and began attacking with its deck gun (damaging a destroyer before being sent down by British gunfire). So while there are no wolf-packs, it could be a single ai u-boat doing a surface action on a convoy while the contact report went out. Edit: in my defense, WetOne hadn't posted when I started typing this. Didn't mean for a redundant post to happen. Last edited by f4wildweasel; 07-12-11 at 05:47 PM.

07-12-11, 06:01 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Sometimes there will be an AI u-boat stalking the convoy. When this happens it is made the lead ship, so the convoy is identified that way. Round circles are submarines, and blue is friendly. When you see that you know there will be another u-boat there. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-13-11, 01:29 AM	#5
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I've seen this a couple of times as well. Usually there would be a ship or two with shell damage. __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

07-12-11, 05:17 PM	#1
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	GWX removes the red/blue/green color coding from the game so that all units show up as black icons on the map. There is a mod that returns the colors (as well as navigational tails) for those who want them back. In stock, units are color coded blue=friendly, red=enemy, green=neutral. If you're playing GWX3 and haven't modded any colors back in for planes/ships/etc., everything should be black. Not sure about the round icon for the convoy as a whole - the only time I've seen a round icon on the map was the small one that indicates a sub. @Paul: Wolfpacks are not part of stock or GWX and I don't think they've ever been implemented in other supermods without causing problems elsewhere, but h.sie (with help from a score of other modders) has been trying to figure out a way to put them into into the game successfully. The idea is to have something get spawned, even if it's not a u-boat you ever see, that will show up and attack a convoy you have reported and draw the attention of some of the escorts. The last time I checked his thread for realism and gameplay hardcoded fixes that was his primary interest ATM. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225