The Ocean Floor - Not So Far Away

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

This was what their propagandists told them would ensure victory. Soft, spoiled Americans used to their fat rations, music, movies and air conditioning would collapse in conflict against the battle-hardened frugal soldiers and sailors of the Japanese Empire.

In all conflicts the US became involved in the XXth century, this has been a factor. The iraquis for instance would hear the sabe BS.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Actually the Japanese were quite aware of the little luxuries that were common in the US Navy and military as a whole. This was what their propagandists told them would ensure victory. Soft, spoiled Americans used to their fat rations, music, movies and air conditioning would collapse in conflict against the battle-hardened frugal soldiers and sailors of the Japanese Empire.

I imagine that was grim solace for the thousands of Japanese soldiers who were starving to death on isolated and bypassed islands in 1945.

Ouch...

[Dogfish40]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Well, I was cruising in the deep waters off the Marshall Islands in January 42', when all of a sudden I ran aground on a hidden reef! The game gave me no time to free myself before declaring mission failed!

I was/am ticked. I know I would've been able to free myself - in the closing scene I saw my sub sliding back into the water!

Didn't this happen to a sub in real life?

Anthony! OMG ('cause I can't say "Holy----")
I was tooling around the Marshalls in my new Gato (I got Promoted), anyway, I can't name the particular island at the moment but all of a sudden I hear the most horrible screeching sound (Metal on Metal, breaking glass ect), my teeth almost shattered (I'm using headphones, volume 10). Apparently we hit bottem.
My Nav map was zoomed way in, and I was sure by the map that we had at least 290'. The first thing I thought of was "I wonder if this is the same place that Anthony hit"?! Anyway,The shoal is not off the named island, but off a satellite island a bit north of the main island. I'm going to go back and find the spot and post a pic to see if this could be the same spot.
Cheers and good hunting.
D40
PS: I was able to reverse and clear it. We have significant damage but are able to continue with mior repairs.

[Zuk]

I hit same reef with typhoon sub on the first patrol with her yesterday morning. I was going 22 knots.

[Captain Titanic]

once i hit the ocean floor while with time compression up to about 1000 and damn scared the living day lights out of me all i heard was Loud Screeching and Banging i was in a Gato class Sub called USS Wahoo also i love the automated names i once got USS Cod

[Anthony W.]

Well, it is realistic. The Pacific was hell. The japs had every shoal and sandbar mapped and memorized. No so for us.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

The japs had every shoal and sandbar mapped and memorized. No so for us.

Trust me. The Japanese struggled with the same inaccurate maps as the Allies.

December 13th 1941 the Japanese cargo ship Nikkoku Maru is stranded and wrecked off Hainan Island, 18°00'N, 110°00'E.

December 29th 1941, the Japanese submarine RO 60, returning from the Wake Island operation, is irreparably damaged by grounding, Kwajalein Atoll, 09°00'N, 167°30'E.

January 12 1942, the destroyer Asagumo is damaged when she runs aground off Tarakan.

January 16th, the Japanese cargo ship Taishu Maru is wrecked when she runs aground off Okushiri Island, Hokkaido.

January 17th, the Japanese transport Fukusei Maru is stranded and wrecked off Yangtze Estuary.

February 9th 1942, the Japanese carrier Kaga is damaged when she runs aground on an uncharted reef, Palau, Palau Islands.

February 17 1942, the Japanese destroyer Ayanami is damaged when she fouls an uncharted reef 2.4 nautical miles off Durai, Anambas Islands.

February 25th 1942, the Japanese cargo ship Fukushima Maru runs aground on a reef and is wrecked, Katsura Bay.

And that's just the first three months of the war.

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Trust me. The Japanese struggled with the same inaccurate maps as the Allies.

December 13th 1941 the Japanese cargo ship Nikkoku Maru is stranded and wrecked off Hainan Island, 18°00'N, 110°00'E.

December 29th 1941, the Japanese submarine RO 60, returning from the Wake Island operation, is irreparably damaged by grounding, Kwajalein Atoll, 09°00'N, 167°30'E.

January 12 1942, the destroyer Asagumo is damaged when she runs aground off Tarakan.

January 16th, the Japanese cargo ship Taishu Maru is wrecked when she runs aground off Okushiri Island, Hokkaido.

January 17th, the Japanese transport Fukusei Maru is stranded and wrecked off Yangtze Estuary.

February 9th 1942, the Japanese carrier Kaga is damaged when she runs aground on an uncharted reef, Palau, Palau Islands.

February 17 1942, the Japanese destroyer Ayanami is damaged when she fouls an uncharted reef 2.4 nautical miles off Durai, Anambas Islands.

February 25th 1942, the Japanese cargo ship Fukushima Maru runs aground on a reef and is wrecked, Katsura Bay.

And that's just the first three months of the war.

Ouch!....Good reasons to go easy on the TC.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by TorpX

Ouch!....Good reasons to go easy on the TC.

Very...

[AVGWarhawk]

There has been a few times for me when I hear "clank, screeeeecchhhhh"
"We have have flooding sir!" "Bow tubes damaged!" I go topside to see my watch crew sprawled on the beach after the abrupt stop caused by hitting a small island or reef.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Trust me. The Japanese struggled with the same inaccurate maps as the Allies.

December 13th 1941 the Japanese cargo ship Nikkoku Maru is stranded and wrecked off Hainan Island, 18°00'N, 110°00'E.

December 29th 1941, the Japanese submarine RO 60, returning from the Wake Island operation, is irreparably damaged by grounding, Kwajalein Atoll, 09°00'N, 167°30'E.

January 12 1942, the destroyer Asagumo is damaged when she runs aground off Tarakan.

January 16th, the Japanese cargo ship Taishu Maru is wrecked when she runs aground off Okushiri Island, Hokkaido.

January 17th, the Japanese transport Fukusei Maru is stranded and wrecked off Yangtze Estuary.

February 9th 1942, the Japanese carrier Kaga is damaged when she runs aground on an uncharted reef, Palau, Palau Islands.

February 17 1942, the Japanese destroyer Ayanami is damaged when she fouls an uncharted reef 2.4 nautical miles off Durai, Anambas Islands.

February 25th 1942, the Japanese cargo ship Fukushima Maru runs aground on a reef and is wrecked, Katsura Bay.

And that's just the first three months of the war.

hahaha! stupid japs.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

hahaha! stupid japs.

Before the war, we had several of our subs running aground smack into our own coast just after leaving port.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Before the war, we had several of our subs running aground smack into our own coast just after leaving port.

.... haha, stupid skippers?

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

.... haha, stupid skippers?

No idea...

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

Didn't this happen to a sub in real life?

Quite a few times, even today.

in 1996 a North Korean Sang o class submarine ran aground and was captured.

Here you can see the damage, that circle thing on the ground was the shroud for her prop.

Another one grounded and was captured in 1998

The USS San Fransisco collided with a seamount in 2005


HMS Astute ran aground earlyer this year.

HMS Trafalgar grounded in 2002

USS Hartford grounded in 2003

HMS Superb hit an undersea rock in 2008