Gaza aid flotilla: Irish crew accuse Israel of sabotage

[MH]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Yes, I posted the wrong link, updated it. The link is about the stupid threat to ban any reporter on the ship from entering Israel. Freedom of press is something important to me, therefore my anger about this dumb move. I had a press card for a long time.

However this makes an interesting juristic question: If a reporter attends a bank robbery and drives in the escape vehicle with the others, can he be charged for aiding and abetting? , not sure about it, I only know IT law, n

It is interesting question.
If the reporter was giving directions then probably it could be offence.
Now...the whole purpose of this flotilla is media coverage as much if not more that blockade running.
While i believe that some abroad those ships have pure as much naive intention at the end of the day its all about creating as much mess and media coverage as possible.
Therefore reporting flotilla serves interests of the organisers and some hostie organisations like hamas with which we are at war.
Baning reporters in current state of matters is inefective and its like "burning korans lol" i don't think that any legal action will be taken against those participating.

It would be damaging and nobody takes it seriously i think.
I believe that this time IDF will bring lots of cameras of our own if needed.
Reporters are holly and neutral no matter what their political views are.lol

Originally Posted by Penguin

Don't know your foreign minister, but why should you have the luck to have better politicians than the rest of the world? Don't forget about the Blaumilch Canal

You seen this movie l

[Skybird]

When abbreviating a past incident as "a Fren ch solution", I just took a verbal shortcut. I do not comment on the background of the action back in NZ, but just think that to sink the Gaza ships today at night with o crew aboard and still stationed in a harbour is the easiest solution to a critical situation for Israel. Regarding the press and polticians,. it is a fact that in Europe and Germany today the more left you look the more openly people are antisemitic, while hidden antisemitism is en vogue in all the poltiical spectzrum today. The press reports in a way of "lining up with the Palestinians at all cost" and "if it is directed against Israel, then anything goes".

Militarily and legally, the blockade is valid and makes sense, and thus Israel is under legal obligation to enforce it for the reasons I explained earlier. It makes no sense to allow dleivers of items that can be used militarily by a milizary enemy of Israel who describes himself as being at war with Israel.

The day the Palestinians send the Hamas to hell we can start thinking about loifting the blockade. Not one day earlier. Palestinians are respinsible for the chpoices they make. And they democratically elected Hamas into power.

They have a right to make choices. And they have a right to be held responsible for the choices they make.

Beside this simple argument, Europeans and Americans alike have demonstrated neither a sense of realism over the conflict, nor being in knowledge of realistic plans and options for solving the issues. Maybe European and American politicians and the press therefore would be well advised to simply shut up and keep their arrogant stupid noses out of this special business.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The day the Palestinians send the Hamas to hell we can start thinking about loifting the blockade. Not one day earlier. Palestinians are respinsible for the chpoices they make. And they democratically elected Hamas into power.

They have a right to make choices. And they have a right to be held responsible for the choices they make.

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That's my stance on the issue

As for the rest its unrealistic in current configuration.

I'm surprised that they were sober enough to notice something was broke.

Yubba didn't you say you was drunk for decades worrying about aliens before you lost your joib and became suddenly sober?

Israeli foreign propaganda sucks...its actually non existent.

Can you not help it?
Why are you such a blatent liar?
Do you think people are too dumb to notice how often you lie?

The gay video that some low ranking clerk idiot happily forwarded and which was shown as PM OFFICE hoax is just stupid example of that.

Welldone MH , it wasn't that hard, you didn't need to go through all your mindless insults, you just had to look at the media which you think doesn't report such things as they don't cover it.

Technically, if a blockade is announced and is valid by rules of certain treaty and international laws

Technically it was always on dodgy grounds, when treaties said it was in violation and the bodies doing international laws said it was bollox it left it in a really bad position.
Now that Egypt as well as the EU have said stuff it Israel hasn't got a leg to stand on.....unless its a customs issue in internationaly recognised Israeli territorial waters

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yubba didn't you say you was drunk for decades worrying about aliens before you lost your joib and became suddenly sober?



Can you not help it?
Why are you such a blatent liar?
Do you think people are too dumb to notice how often you lie?


Welldone MH , it wasn't that hard, you didn't need to go through all your mindless insults, you just had to look at the media which you think doesn't report such things as they don't cover it.


Technically it was always on dodgy grounds, when treaties said it was in violation and the bodies doing international laws said it was bollox it left it in a really bad position.
Now that Egypt as well as the EU have said stuff it Israel hasn't got a leg to stand on.....unless its a customs issue in internationaly recognised Israeli territorial waters

MH

You silly liar

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You silly liar

Post as many pictures as you like MH
It won't change the fact that you have shown yourself to be nothing but a silly liar

[yubba]

[QUOTE=Tribesman;1696031]Yubba didn't you say you was drunk for decades worrying about aliens before you lost your joib and became suddenly sober?}

Let's get it straight, I partied my a$$ off for decades, don't recall worrying about aleins, though I might have partied with a few.
Sobered up when your buddies up in D.C. started screwing up this country, and then I said the party is over, loss of the job is also the fault of your buddies in D.C seems they can't manage money or something like that. Hense no job means no beer for Yubba. But not to fear, God seems to take care of his own, got a nice little gig, lots of freinds, a roof over my head, a little jiggle in my pocket, and I'm able to make your heads spin right off your shoulders.:hah a:

Let's get it straight, I partied my a$$ off for decades, don't recall worrying about aleins,

oh no its the secret planet Nibiru

Sobered up when your buddies up in D.C. started screwing up this country

Whose buddies??????
Since the politicians in DC have been screwing up the country since before you were born it means you can never have had that excuse to stop being a drunk.

and I'm able to make your heads spin right off your shoulders

No, you are able to make heads shake in despair at the levels of sheer lunacy you spout.

[yubba]

Well at least I'm entertaining, I'm trying to comfort you, since you are on that free fall of denial, grasping for the apron strings of the nanny state. I remember Ragan he was great, need someone like him now. Righty tighty, lefty lucy, you ought to have some pie. And by the way if you are going too quote me don't edit them, one would think you work for ABC NEWS

Well at least I'm entertaining

Not at all.
Pitiful is the word which best describes it.

grasping for the apron strings of the nanny state

I remember Ragan he was great

I think you have difficulty in remembering what day of the week it is or how to tie a shoelace.

And by the way if you are going two quote me edit them

[yubba]

who needs shoe strings when you got velcro another great american invention.
just as I thought you do work for ABC, you just can't stop editting, you need to watch FOX more often.
What sbout those drunken Irish sailors that ran over their own mooring lines and blamed it on the Isreal.

another great american invention

I would say that surely someone cannot be that dumb, but then again .......

What sbout those drunken Irish sailors that ran over their own mooring lines and blamed it on the Isreal.

Wow that was some magical mooring line, must have been a special alien one that can go through one section of a steel casing without tangling the props. Was it secretly funded by the hidden scientists at the south pole who stole all your governments money?

[yubba]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I would say that surely someone cannot be that dumb, but then again ].......can't send a man to the moon without velcro.




Wow that was some magical mooring line, must have been a special alien one that can go through one section of a steel casing without tangling the props. Was it secretly funded by the hidden scientists at the south pole who stole all your governments money?

At least I don't beleive, Isreal has trained Dolphins with cutting torches on their backs, cutting props off of pleasure craft. Sorry about for the late responce I forget how hot it must get in that basement. Yes I seen pics of the Irish tubs, if they would have spent less money on whiskey and more on their boats, they wouldn't have such problems and I can tell you that because I'm a professionial drunk which you have stated over and over in this thread which I'm cool with, In my expert opinion they were drunk and ran over their lines. Unless you can prove Isreal has invisible helicopters and frogman Oh by the way 100 empty whiskey bottles and one tin of tuna doesn't constitute Humanitarian aide.