interesting theory on subsim GT effects on life's views

Sailor Steve · 06-29-11, 10:26 AM

I like the fact that I'm actually discussing things with people all over the world. That, and here at Subsim some of us don't remain strangers behind our monitors. Many of us have met each other, and I've had a few entertaining phone conversations over the years. More than any other site I've seen Subsim members are real people to me.

Betonov · 06-29-11, 10:40 AM

There's an entire essay I could write on this topic

Maybe I'll start it when I finish my war

krashkart · 06-29-11, 02:00 PM

I'm not sure that my political views have shifted much through my reading of various threads here. I know where I stand on certain topics, and other topics I either don't care about or simply haven't heard about. But the short of it is that I don't read very many political topics here or anywhere else.

The most important thing I've learned here is that most of my posts never get posted. Why? Sometimes when I proofread a post that I've been working on it is so full of holes, contradictions, and reiterations of the same points that I come to realize just how disorganized and subjective my train of thought is. Other times what I write is simply the end result of a day that hasn't gone the way I would have liked it to.

Armistead · 06-29-11, 02:17 PM

Life and people changed my political views. I was once a fundy hard line GOP member, now I'm moderate to liberal, but generally hate that our nation for many reasons has become so divided.

Many of us are controlled by sound bites, media coverage, etc...that's why elections are just a propaganda drama to gain control of weak minds.

Most of us base our beliefs due to culture and what works for us, so people with different cultural experinences believe different.

Now I look and deal with facts, not emotions based on ideals.

Diopos · 06-29-11, 04:51 PM

Subsim's GT?
Subsim in general?
Well it's one good reason for connecting to the internet. Most days it's the only good reason!

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Platapus · 06-29-11, 05:11 PM

GT would be great if the posts did not devolve into emotional posts, illogical arguments without data, and ad hominem attacks against posters.

The few times a good discussion happens on GT, there is a selection of posters, and unfortunately they are some of the more active, who drag the thread down with attacks on people or just simply illogical "arguments" that don't add anything significant to the discussion. This is especially true in the political threads.

More and more there are simply threads I don't bother to open because I know where it will end up. I sometimes forget and accidentally open them only to discover that I was right.

It really is too bad, for occasionally there are good threads and people willing to discuss them intellectually. But it seldom lasts.

I wonder how many potential new members are turned off by some of the GT posts?

krashkart · 06-29-11, 05:39 PM

Could be worse; GT could read like a YouTube comments section.

Thankfully there is alot more to Subsim than the GT section.

Furthermore...

06-29-11, 10:26 AM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I like the fact that I'm actually discussing things with people all over the world. That, and here at Subsim some of us don't remain strangers behind our monitors. Many of us have met each other, and I've had a few entertaining phone conversations over the years. More than any other site I've seen Subsim members are real people to me. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-29-11, 02:00 PM	#3
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure that my political views have shifted much through my reading of various threads here. I know where I stand on certain topics, and other topics I either don't care about or simply haven't heard about. But the short of it is that I don't read very many political topics here or anywhere else. The most important thing I've learned here is that most of my posts never get posted. Why? Sometimes when I proofread a post that I've been working on it is so full of holes, contradictions, and reiterations of the same points that I come to realize just how disorganized and subjective my train of thought is. Other times what I write is simply the end result of a day that hasn't gone the way I would have liked it to. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

06-29-11, 04:51 PM	#5
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Subsim's GT? Subsim in general? Well it's one good reason for connecting to the internet. Most days it's the only good reason! . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

06-29-11, 05:11 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	GT would be great if the posts did not devolve into emotional posts, illogical arguments without data, and ad hominem attacks against posters. The few times a good discussion happens on GT, there is a selection of posters, and unfortunately they are some of the more active, who drag the thread down with attacks on people or just simply illogical "arguments" that don't add anything significant to the discussion. This is especially true in the political threads. More and more there are simply threads I don't bother to open because I know where it will end up. I sometimes forget and accidentally open them only to discover that I was right. It really is too bad, for occasionally there are good threads and people willing to discuss them intellectually. But it seldom lasts. I wonder how many potential new members are turned off by some of the GT posts? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

06-29-11, 05:39 PM	#7
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Could be worse; GT could read like a YouTube comments section. Thankfully there is alot more to Subsim than the GT section. Furthermore... __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

06-29-11, 10:40 AM	#2
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	There's an entire essay I could write on this topic Maybe I'll start it when I finish my war

06-29-11, 02:17 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Life and people changed my political views. I was once a fundy hard line GOP member, now I'm moderate to liberal, but generally hate that our nation for many reasons has become so divided. Many of us are controlled by sound bites, media coverage, etc...that's why elections are just a propaganda drama to gain control of weak minds. Most of us base our beliefs due to culture and what works for us, so people with different cultural experinences believe different. Now I look and deal with facts, not emotions based on ideals.