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Old 06-18-11, 10:49 PM   #14
Castout
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There is faith in reason, which isn't 'wrong' by any means, but it does invite uncritical reliance and open it to be used as a weapon indeed.
I'd rather say there's understanding in reason and though it is true that trust may be needed it is all because we can't possibly know everything. But this faith or trust is not to be misunderstood as blind faith or blind trust.

There's even reasons behind faith or trust. be it certain knowledge or past experience that could back up that trust and whether it should be given.

But people don't always communicate to gain understanding as we are in my view all are beings of politics. When we are politicking instead of communicating then by all means the purpose of the communication is no longer to lead other to gain understanding but to deceive, mislead, trick, sway or convince.

Ideally every person must be an independent person and capable of critical thinking and reasoning and having a conscience.
But this is not the case in real life. The degree which every person thinks critically varies. Naive people tend to agree and believe whatever they are told for example. And in real life not a single of us are truly independent as a human being. True that we are born as human being equal and endowed with universal values but that stops there.

In real life there are hierarchies. President, CEO, Army general, employee, labor, customers, staff, manager. This power hierarchy have the power to change the objectivity of people whose lives are dependent on their relationship in it.

Ultimately whatever comes out from the mouth comes from the heart(intentions). When people have twisted intentions then whatever they say will be twisted accordingly to suit their needs.

But if you think to the fundamental level of communication you can clearly see what would happen if communication is used to win arguments alone.
CHAOS. That's right. And this would hamper the essence of communicating itself and render it nothing more than accessory. Just imagine the extreme that nothing that's being said by ANY people are wholly truthful. How would you perceive every word that's said to you? With a pinch of salt for sure. Would this hamper the essence of communicating. Hell yes. People would turn into actions and really on actions alone. Killing, rampaging, stealing, going to war and put civilized ways of friendship and diplomacy to the darkest corner of the earth. Put simply we talk because we are civilized. But when uncivilized people talk just to win arguments they are doing that because they are childish people. They require a smack on their face. If the people who talk just to win argument alone increase to substantial number you can be sure civilization itself will crumble. It will because no one will trust any single person any more. The police will use torture to gain confession. Witnesses will no longer be trusted. The judge will not be fair, etc.
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