After Campaign Change... what next ...Crew?

urfisch · 06-18-11, 05:18 AM

sign on that. would love to see full access to your whole crew! why not the sh4 style? the sh4 management system was better than sh3 management. but both gave great immersion, as you had access to every crew member on your boat!

the "management" as it is now, is not a management. its crap and unrealistic.

Stevepine · 06-18-11, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by urfisch

sign on that. would love to see full access to your whole crew! why not the sh4 style? the sh4 management system was better than sh3 management. but both gave great immersion, as you had access to every crew member on your boat!

the "management" as it is now, is not a management. its crap and unrealistic.

Well I bought sh4 and then didnt play it much. Im just 'old school' and preferred the sh3 type. Didnt really ever get to grips with the sh4 system.

Hackerspy · 06-18-11, 09:01 AM

Yeah...what I love the most about the SH series was the realism that crew management in SH3 was giving! This was something exceptional and I am soo sad tha it is lacking in SH4(never learned how it is used) and SH5!

TheDarkWraith · 06-18-11, 10:14 AM

Well everyone cried about not being able to interact with the crew and not being able to walk around the boat so the devs changed that in SH5. That was a MAJOR change and in doing so it would be very difficult to make some kind of crew management like SH3/4. I can see the head scratching that was probably going on when the brain storming sessions were going on probably discussing this.

urfisch · 06-18-11, 10:41 AM

yeah, tdw. but its not contrary...walk around, interact and also have a real roster of your crew. the sh4 style was the most realistic one. having watches defined and also the repair teams, etc. even some of this was job of the LI or the 1WO, you as a captain where in charge of ALL crew members. what you wanted them to do, was done.

what i miss most, is getting some kind of relationship to your crew. in sh3 and sh4 it was a fundamental part of the gameplay to know, who is sailing on your boat. so if "gustav schmidt - matrosengefreiter", new on your boat, was injured or died on service, it felt really bad. some young men, new to the navy, just on first patrol and already dead.

and also the decoration of single crew members is really missing. in sh3, you decorated the command room crew, if you felt like they did a good job, or the repair team, if their work was really life saving. they all get an iron cross...

the fact we didnt have it in sh5 is not part of the concept, it was not possible to add it in time. otherwise it would have been done, as it was a main part of your job as a captain to manage your crew...and not just your officers.

TheDarkWraith · 06-18-11, 01:05 PM

I liked the SH3 style of crew management best

Paco · 06-18-11, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I liked the SH3 style of crew management best

urfisch · 06-19-11, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I liked the SH3 style of crew management best

sign on that, too. but getting watch crew teams beeing defined was missing! so you had to set every crew member manually. this sucked and was better solved in sh4. but the system itself was very nice! also getting new crew members by going to the barracks, choose your officers...seeing their skills and experience, etc.

this all is really missing in sh5!!!

06-18-11, 05:18 AM	#1
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	sign on that. would love to see full access to your whole crew! why not the sh4 style? the sh4 management system was better than sh3 management. but both gave great immersion, as you had access to every crew member on your boat! the "management" as it is now, is not a management. its crap and unrealistic. __________________

06-18-11, 10:41 AM	#5
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	yeah, tdw. but its not contrary...walk around, interact and also have a real roster of your crew. the sh4 style was the most realistic one. having watches defined and also the repair teams, etc. even some of this was job of the LI or the 1WO, you as a captain where in charge of ALL crew members. what you wanted them to do, was done. what i miss most, is getting some kind of relationship to your crew. in sh3 and sh4 it was a fundamental part of the gameplay to know, who is sailing on your boat. so if "gustav schmidt - matrosengefreiter", new on your boat, was injured or died on service, it felt really bad. some young men, new to the navy, just on first patrol and already dead. and also the decoration of single crew members is really missing. in sh3, you decorated the command room crew, if you felt like they did a good job, or the repair team, if their work was really life saving. they all get an iron cross... the fact we didnt have it in sh5 is not part of the concept, it was not possible to add it in time. otherwise it would have been done, as it was a main part of your job as a captain to manage your crew...and not just your officers. __________________

06-18-11, 09:01 AM	#3
Hackerspy Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 20 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Yeah...what I love the most about the SH series was the realism that crew management in SH3 was giving! This was something exceptional and I am soo sad tha it is lacking in SH4(never learned how it is used) and SH5!

06-18-11, 10:14 AM	#4
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Well everyone cried about not being able to interact with the crew and not being able to walk around the boat so the devs changed that in SH5. That was a MAJOR change and in doing so it would be very difficult to make some kind of crew management like SH3/4. I can see the head scratching that was probably going on when the brain storming sessions were going on probably discussing this.

06-18-11, 01:05 PM	#6
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I liked the SH3 style of crew management best