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Old 06-16-11, 04:33 PM   #1
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Yeah but I still miss them sometimes. Mostly I miss being 18 I think. Being old sucks more.
If only we knew at 18 what we know now huh?
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Old 06-15-11, 11:53 PM   #2
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Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine!
I gained weight in the army Though it was all muscle mass.
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Old 06-15-11, 07:02 AM   #3
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That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.
You could be, but if you use your head you probably won't. Don't replace meat with excessive dairy, go easy on oil, fruit and nuts and you will almost certainly lose weight.
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Old 06-15-11, 08:22 AM   #4
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You could be, but if you use your head you probably won't. Don't replace meat with excessive dairy, go easy on oil, fruit and nuts and you will almost certainly lose weight.
Carbs are the big one you gotta watch for. Many people increase the number of carbs to feel full. Also fruit isn't a bad thing, in reasonable amounts.


Ultimately there is only one effective way of loosing weight and keeping it off. Reduce the number of calories you are consuming, and/or increase the amount of exercise you do. These changes need to be permanent otherwise you will rebound and likely gain more weight.

Also crash/starvation diets are a VERY bad idea (that includes skipping meals), as not only do you put your health at risk, but you train your body to expect lean times, causing it to adapt and be even more prone to convert food to fat (and hold onto the fat longer).

Nothing else works.


Some tricks to cut back on food intake.
  • Take 20% less food when serving yourself
  • Prepare somewhat less food than you normally eat
  • Keep treats out of sight & out of easy reach
  • Be disciplined when at the store, and don't buy the junk. If you don't have it, you can't eat it (and you won't be tempted by it)
  • Stay the hell away from fast food of any kind, none of it is healthy, not even the salads (especially not the salads)
  • Eat slowly and take pauses, it can take up to 30 minutes before you will feel full. Rapid eating will cause you to over eat before you feel full
  • Cook your own meals and prepare portions for yourself
  • Brush your teeth when you want to stop eating, toothpaste usually does not go well with food.
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Old 06-15-11, 10:37 AM   #5
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Ultimately there is only one effective way of loosing weight and keeping it off. Reduce the number of calories you are consuming, and/or increase the amount of exercise you do. These changes need to be permanent otherwise you will rebound and likely gain more weight.
The "eat less, move more" diet is a sure winner.
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Old 06-15-11, 10:49 AM   #6
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What the food is exactly comprised of is more important that just its energy content tbh.
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Old 06-15-11, 11:03 AM   #7
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Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard.
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this may sound strange but here's how I got back to my regular weight. due to a death in the family I end up with a 3yr old shi tzu .I could not stand it when she stared at me while eating.So I eat when she eats morning and at night. no more snacks at all hours.the weight just fell off. I guess all that nibbling adds up.
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Old 06-15-11, 11:30 AM   #9
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Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard.
Unless he's in Australia. You might actually gain weight on that diet down there.



OTOH you'd get a lot of extra exercise running away from some of the nastier ones.
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Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard.
Bugs are high in protein.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...810336,00.html
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Old 06-15-11, 07:30 AM   #11
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That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.
I know two vegetarians that are (were) obese, and both developed gaulstones. One started to take up running about 18 months ago and the weight dropped off. Now she runs everywhere, and takes part in half-marathons and fun runs (a misnomer, surely?) within 100 mile radius about every other weekend, has joined an athletics club and trains daily. If you'd have seen her 18 months ago, all she ever did was sit at a PC playing music and games - she can't drive but would never walk anywhere, or even get the bus. If her husband didn't drive her she wouldn't go! Now she's BOBFOC*



The other one hasn't taken up running, and still complains of general ill health.

*For those that don't know - Body Off Baywatch, Face Off Crimewatch!

Edit: Oops, just realised I'd hit reply on page one, and not read page two!

If swimming did it for you then it can again, just need the municiple pool. Running for 1/8th of a mile and stopping isn't great, try this - it worked for my wife.

  1. Week one: Walk for six minutes, then jog at an easy pace for one minute. Repeat three times. Aim for three sessions with that same sequence for week one.
  2. Week two: Walk for five minutes, then jog for two minutes. Repeat three times. Aim to do three sessions in week two.
  3. Week three: Walk for three minutes, then jog for four minutes. Repeat four times. Aim for four sessions in week three.
  4. Week four: Walk for two minutes, then jog for five minutes. Repeat four times. Shoot for three of those sessions in week four.
  5. Week five: Walk for two minutes, then jog for eight minutes. Repeat three times. Do three of those sessions in week five.
  6. Week six: Walk for two minutes, then jog for nine minutes. Repeat three times. Try to do three sessions for week six.
  7. Week seven: Walk for one minute, then jog for 11 minutes. Repeat three times. Do three sessions this week.
  8. Week eight: Congratulations on making it to week eight! For your first run this week, try walking for five minutes to begin and end the workout, and run for 20 minutes in between. By the end of the week, try to run for 30 minutes without stopping.
Above anything else, you must strech your muscles before and after - just google pre-run streches.

The more exercise you do, the better you will feel. Even just a walk before your breakfast could make all the difference to the rest of your day!
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Old 06-15-11, 08:13 AM   #12
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Always burn more than you eat. It's burning that gets the job done, not starving.

I've lost 3 kilos in the last month. Not much but I havent gone up in that time. The first time I'm under 95kg in the last 10 years. Next stop 90kg. It helped I suppresed my asthma. Now I can run for 5km without an attack.

Here's my advice:
1) learn to cook, if you live in a rural area like me, the grandmothers food is fatty, drowned in lard and the meat is not prepared to remove the white fat on it. If you know how to cook you can prepare yourself low fat dishes that are still tasty. Tuna and tomato sauce, spring salads, steaks that do not drip from fat... Just don't go into the extremes, eat my friend, serve yourself a giant stake and run it out the next day

2) as mentioned, burn more than you eat. Taking sports is the best thing.

3) run everytime you feel angry/depressed/sad/disapointed. You'll sweat the bad feelings and the fat out of you in the same time.

4) the hardest one, find motivation. I motivate myself by my sheer hatred of women and want to be on the giving side of ''just wanna be friends'' speeches from now on.

5) don't measure your progress by weight alone. Muscles also ad to the bodyweight
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I motivate myself by my sheer hatred of women and want to be on the giving side of ''just wanna be friends'' speeches from now on.


So if a Slovenian Ripper starts killing women, we'll point the authorities in your direction.

I was trying to think of something more profound to write here but have failed

Maybe a village in Slovenia is not the best place to meet the lovely ladies?
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Old 06-15-11, 08:55 AM   #14
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I'm with the red cross, we don't believe in violence I'll leave a trail of broken hearts after me as soon as I get rid of this gut.

I don't know, the women in these parts tend to be very shallow. If a girl tells you you have a great sense of humor, it's actualy a death sentence. We're to kind, a woman can have a carved-body idiot fo showing off and sweet loving and the ''friend'' who'll do anything for her, for runnning erands and getting gifts and doing what in other countries the man does to get laid. Looks matter my boy, looks matter. Anything else is only a bonus
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Old 06-15-11, 09:09 AM   #15
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Well... After reading through this post, I was kind of interested (before OP replied 2nd time )

I don't know if anyone here knows this or not, but as an athlete competing in Freestyle Wrestling, I have to know how to control my body weight as well as what I eat.

Now, when you said that you were looking to lose 5 lbs for 8 weeks, I thought well, that's pretty easy. I can sweat that out in a two hour practice. However the key word there is sweat. As a wrestler, I can control a lot of my body weight by monitoring and influencing my intake of water. Obviously that's not an option for you, because it is only a short term (24hr) solution to losing weight.

A lot of what's been said in this thread is valid (and I in no way claim to be an expert on losing weight ) but there are some points that I disagree with...

I won't name them, but here's some pointers that I follow and that I feel could probably help you;

- Weigh yourself morning and night, not after a workout or after you eat because your bodyweight can fluctuate 4-5lbs after a meal or after a workout.

- If you start a weight regimen, your weight will go up for the first few weeks but then gradually decrease.

- Eating, and controlling it, is a mental challenge. Trick yourself into thinking you are full or find foods that have maximum energy potential with the smallest carb/fat number. Eating a nice juicy steak or having a huge pasta dinner is nice (and is needed every once in a while), but realize you have to DO something with all that you've just taken into your body.

- Trick your body into believing there is a lot of food by making a big portion of for example salad. Cut the lettuce really big so that it appears that there is ALOT of it there. As your eating, eat slow as well. This tricks your body into thinking that there is a lot of food and that it is hungry.

-Create a schedule of a swim/spin class in the morning and a jog at night. Start slow and gradually increase the difficulty/length/intensity of what you are doing

- Be careful of your salt intake (f.ex.: salads are awesome, but having that italian dressing means intaking a lot of salt...)

- Know that if you're working your body hard, you're eventually going to need sugar. Don't be afraid to treat yourself every once in a while (every 3-4 weeks..)

All in all you have to be confident and positive. Know that the changes won't happen over night and that it takes dedication. You will get tired. You will get sore. You will get discouraged. But just keep at it and push through and you can reach your goal.

Best of luck!

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