First Time Sunk By DC

[Daniel Prates]

Welcome aboard, matey.

[HowFar]

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

Welcome aboard, matey.

Thanks.

[Jan Kyster]

300 ft is way to little! Go much - much! - deeper.
You didn't mention it, but of course you were rigged for silent running and not going above 2 to 3 knots?

And for the love of... do not - repeat: DO NOT! - go anywhere near DDs in flat calm sea!
And most certainly not under any circumstances when using TMO! Never!

Agree on your top three list, but my list also includes "War in the Boats", "Thunder below!" and "A Tale of two Subs"

Originally Posted by HowFar

I really do have a life that includes wife, kids, friends

Suuuure.... of course...

Nah, only kidding!

Only problem with them is when you try to share your experiences, isn't it?
At least the times I've tried, noone really seems to understand, rolling and fading eyes is usually what I get...

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

Welcome aboard, matey.

Erh, too late... he was here before you, Daniel

[HowFar]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

300 ft is way to little! Go much - much! - deeper.
You didn't mention it, but of course you were rigged for silent running and not going above 2 to 3 knots?

And for the love of... do not - repeat: DO NOT! - go anywhere near DDs in flat calm sea!
And most certainly not under any circumstances when using TMO! Never!

Agree on your top three list, but my list also includes "War in the Boats", "Thunder below!" and "A Tale of two Subs"

Suuuure.... of course...

Nah, only kidding!

Only problem with them is when you try to share your experiences, isn't it?
At least the times I've tried, noone really seems to understand, rolling and fading eyes is usually what I get...

Erh, too late... he was here before you, Daniel

My test depth was 250 so I was a little hesitant to go deeper. I've done it before, but these four (now three) campaigns are my first with TMO/RSRDC so I wasn't sure what to expect as far as an actual crush depth. I now know that I can go much deeper. Yes I was silent and running at 2 knots, although I did bump it up a notch to slow my sinking which may likely have exacerbated my situation.

Trust me, next time I will run like hell as soon as I pick up the sound of DDs.



I don't belive I've read "A Tale of Two Subs", but will now try to pick it up on your recommendation. I can't get seem to get enough on the subject.

Yeah, my wife looks at me with raised eyebrows, but my nine year old son gets it. He has his own copy of each SH3, SH4 Gold, and regretfully SH5. He's pretty good at it too. I'm trying to get him into manual targeting.

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I appreciate the input. I've picked up a great deal from you all at Subsim. I can honestly say that discovering Subsim has saved my copy of SH4 from the trash.

[ddiplock]

Originally Posted by HowFar

My test depth was 250 so I was a little hesitant to go deeper. I've done it before, but these four (now three) campaigns are my first with TMO/RSRDC so I wasn't sure what to expect as far as an actual crush depth. I now know that I can go much deeper. Yes I was silent and running at 2 knots, although I did bump it up a notch to slow my sinking which may likely have exacerbated my situation.

Trust me, next time I will run like hell as soon as I pick up the sound of DDs.



I don't belive I've read "A Tale of Two Subs", but will now try to pick it up on your recommendation. I can't get seem to get enough on the subject.

Yeah, my wife looks at me with raised eyebrows, but my nine year old son gets it. He has his own copy of each SH3, SH4 Gold, and regretfully SH5. He's pretty good at it too. I'm trying to get him into manual targeting.

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond. I appreciate the input. I've picked up a great deal from you all at Subsim. I can honestly say that discovering Subsim has saved my copy of SH4 from the trash.

Your test depth may be 250, but trust me, your boat can handle it. Last night I was hiding down at 430ft in my Tambor class boat, and it also only has a test depth of 250. Besides, part of the fun is pushing the boat that bit more, just don't go TOO deep, i've made that mistake before and breached the hull and sunk myself.

But yeah, even with a 250 rating, you'll easily be safe going just past the 400ft mark. 300 is way too shallow :P

Also, prob don't need to tell you but, whenever you hear DC's coming down on your head, run the engines to flank and throw the rudder hard left/right depending on where the Destroyer appers to be heading. Should hopefully get you out of the blast area some. While the DC's are exploding round your ears, their sonar will be deaf to your engine noise allowing you to run at flank for a few precious seconds. Scoot and glide, scoot and glide

[magic452]

That is a very good career to lose that late in the war.

Magic

[HowFar]

Originally Posted by magic452

That is a very good career to lose that late in the war.

Magic

It was painful. For a brief second I considered reloading the last save, but it just isn't the same so I dismissed the notion. I've tried that before and it didn't feel right so I quit that campaign too. Once you've been sunk it's over. Here it is roughly seven hours later and I'm still not over it. Heck, maybe I do need subsim rehab.

Oh yes, and it was January 28, 1945. My initial post said January 8th so I must have muffed the 2 somehow.

[magic452]

Originally Posted by HowFar

Oh yes, and it was January 28, 1945. My initial post said January 8th so I must have muffed the 2 somehow.

Well that explains it all now. Your horoscope clearly said "Don't take any unnecessary chances on the 28th.

I know what you mean about reloading saves, it's just not the same.

Magic

[HowFar]

Originally Posted by ddiplock

Your test depth may be 250, but trust me, your boat can handle it. Last night I was hiding down at 430ft in my Tambor class boat, and it also only has a test depth of 250. Besides, part of the fun is pushing the boat that bit more, just don't go TOO deep, i've made that mistake before and breached the hull and sunk myself.

But yeah, even with a 250 rating, you'll easily be safe going just past the 400ft mark. 300 is way too shallow :P

Also, prob don't need to tell you but, whenever you hear DC's coming down on your head, run the engines to flank and throw the rudder hard left/right depending on where the Destroyer appers to be heading. Should hopefully get you out of the blast area some. While the DC's are exploding round your ears, their sonar will be deaf to your engine noise allowing you to run at flank for a few precious seconds. Scoot and glide, scoot and glide

Yes, I wasn't too sure how much deeper to go and I was a being a little conservative, plus the fact that I had escaped so many situations up to now I felt I could do it again. I guess I was getting a little cocky. In the final descent the boat was comfortably holding together past 700 feet and was around 1,200 feet when it finally crushed.

I also wasn't sure about full speed because the ecorts sounded as if they were taking turns on me until the end wehn they all seemed to pound me at once. As one of them passed over me I didn't know if another would pick me up from short to medium range. Oh well, lessons learned...

That last barrage was incredible. It was as if they all hit me at the same time, which I think was the case because I never in the years of playing SH4 since it's initial realease have experienced anything like it. My hat's off to Ducimus and/or Lurker because this felt real. I kind of seal myself off from the world when I do this so I can really get into it. The helpless feeling as I was sinking had a definite air of realism to it. It was an experience that I can't tell my wife about because she would likely check me into some sort of rehab for subsimers, so I had to post. I fugured you guys would understand.

[commandosolo2009]

Originally Posted by HowFar

Yes, I wasn't too sure how much deeper to go and I was a being a little conservative, plus the fact that I had escaped so many situations up to now I felt I could do it again. I guess I was getting a little cocky. In the final descent the boat was comfortably holding together past 700 feet and was around 1,200 feet when it finally crushed.

I also wasn't sure about full speed because the ecorts sounded as if they were taking turns on me until the end wehn they all seemed to pound me at once. As one of them passed over me I didn't know if another would pick me up from short to medium range. Oh well, lessons learned...

That last barrage was incredible. It was as if they all hit me at the same time, which I think was the case because I never in the years of playing SH4 since it's initial realease have experienced anything like it. My hat's off to Ducimus and/or Lurker because this felt real. I kind of seal myself off from the world when I do this so I can really get into it. The helpless feeling as I was sinking had a definite air of realism to it. It was an experience that I can't tell my wife about because she would likely check me into some sort of rehab for subsimers, so I had to post. I fugured you guys would understand.

Ahoy matey!!! Welcome aboard and we're glad you survived the ordeal to tell us about it.. Momsen lungs are quite an invention aren't they???

In my case a real sinking by the stern happened once in Rabaul. There was this dastardly, apparently elite, DE, patrolling the shallows to port Rabaul, when I decided to floor it the minute he turns around. Bastard turns once and flashes, boom! I'm *ucked....

Anyways, do try to get Dick O'kane's Clear the Bridge and Wahoo for your library.

[HowFar]

Originally Posted by commandosolo2009

Ahoy matey!!! Welcome aboard and we're glad you survived the ordeal to tell us about it.. Momsen lungs are quite an invention aren't they???

In my case a real sinking by the stern happened once in Rabaul. There was this dastardly, apparently elite, DE, patrolling the shallows to port Rabaul, when I decided to floor it the minute he turns around. Bastard turns once and flashes, boom! I'm *ucked....

Anyways, do try to get Dick O'kane's Clear the Bridge and Wahoo for your library.

Thanks. Speaking of Momsen Lungs, it would be a nice if we could abandon ship when all is lost. Not a critical feature or a game changer, but just for the heck of it.

I have read "Clear the Bridge" many years ago. I believe it was the early '90s when I picked up a paper back copy. I loved it. I will usually pick up anything I see having to do with WWII submarines and, with that one I was not disappointed.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Erh, too late... he was here before you, Daniel

Oooops! sorry! I was mislead by the 'popeye' looks you get when in 'sailor man' rank.

[FIREWALL]

SH3,4 and 5 can acually make the addreniline pump so much your tired after a dramatic session.

That's part of the reason you don't want to play a saved game.

Your Drained. That heavy of an immersion takes alot out of you.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by HowFar

Y. In the final descent the boat was comfortably holding together past 700 feet and was around 1,200 feet when it finally crushed.

Tambor class? Trust me, your boat was done before you hit 700 feet. There's a lag or time delay between when your boat is crushed (as reported in the damage control screen), and when the screen fades out and shifts the view to the death camera. In TMO you can go MUCH deeper then you'd think you could, but within reason, and within what limited research is available on deep dive excursions that occurred during the war.

However, pass that depth, and you have about 3 to 6 seconds before your crushed. Which is about as much time needed to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

... put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

OMG!