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Old 06-12-11, 04:23 PM   #1
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It is amazing that anyone can survive getting shot in the head.

Kubic Kudos to the doctors and nurses.

Even if she does not get any better, she still has recovered very well.
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Old 06-12-11, 10:40 PM   #2
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Killed 6 others the would be assassin(attacker) was a mad man huh.
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Old 06-13-11, 06:18 AM   #3
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It is amazing that anyone can survive getting shot in the head.

Kubic Kudos to the doctors and nurses.

Even if she does not get any better, she still has recovered very well.
Rgr that
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It is amazing that anyone can survive getting shot in the head.
What is more amazing is the lout that shot her and killed others is getting away with an insanity plea.
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Old 06-13-11, 05:31 PM   #6
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What is more amazing is the lout that shot her and killed others is getting away with an insanity plea.
REALLY!!?
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Old 06-13-11, 06:25 PM   #7
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He will still be locked up for life just in a mental ward instead of a prison. No execution either

But I do believe he is mentally screwed up. He has a history going back to over a year with documented problems at his school and by acquaintance testimony. He started talking allot of nonsensical gibberish about money and government long before the shooting.

I still think they should fry him mental or not, but again just because he's a nutter doesn't mean he deserves sympathy. Put him out and move on.
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I still think they should fry him mental or not, but again just because he's a nutter doesn't mean he deserves sympathy. Put him out and move on.
I have not agreed so completely with a statement in a long time. Yeah, he's nuts, you have to be to do what he did. He needs to be put down like a rabid dog, not locked in a hospital.
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So he will be able to sit in a closed psychiatric ward in the prison, the rest of his life!
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Old 06-16-11, 12:44 PM   #10
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I have not agreed so completely with a statement in a long time. Yeah, he's nuts, you have to be to do what he did. He needs to be put down like a rabid dog, not locked in a hospital.
Add me to the list of agreement here.

Here's how I see it: if you're competent enough to know you would like a gun, buy the gun, buy ammo for the gun, load the gun, then proceed to a very specific event in order to shoot people associated with said even, you are COMPETENT ENOUGH TO STAND TRIAL!
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Old 06-16-11, 03:33 PM   #11
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I wish her well in her recovery. I hope that her and her family can move on with life and not have to suffer any further tragedy like this one.

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Yeah, he's nuts, you have to be to do what he did. He needs to be put down like a rabid dog, not locked in a hospital.
Over 6 billion people on this planet, nobody will miss this one. Keeping him alive is a waste of resources and money that could be put to better use. The "humane" thing to do is put him out of his misery, just like we would for a rabid dog or a lame horse.
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What is more amazing is the lout that shot her and killed others is getting away with an insanity plea.
Well that has not been decided yet. He as a court appearance on September, 2011 where it will be decided whether he is competent to stand trial in federal court.

What will be interesting is if Arizona can make a case for concurrent jurisdiction. It might be possible to Loughner to be considered competent to stand trial in state court. That would be interesting.

In any case, don't think that because he will rot in a mental institution that he will have an easy life.
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He was found incompetent to stand trial. That trial was over May 25th sir.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7581038.html

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He was found incompetent to stand trial. That trial was over May 25th sir.

That is correct, but there will be another hearing on 21 Sep 11 to see if, after going treatment, he remains incompetent. If he responds to treatment, he may still go on trial.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...yCH_story.html
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Gabrielle Giffords released from hospital

The US congresswoman shot in the head in January has been released from hospital to begin outpatient treatment after improvements in her condition.

Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona is to move to the Texas home of her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly.

Six died and 13 were injured in the shooting at Ms Giffords' constituent event in Tucson, Arizona.

The man accused of shooting Ms Giffords and killing six others has been found mentally unfit to stand trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13786583


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