SH3 U.S. Pacific Sub or Surface Campaign ??? - Page 2

Bakkels · 06-07-11, 08:56 AM

Thanks Steve & Frau. Yubba was quoting me (made a typo I guess) but he probably wanted to know the same thing.

Well it seems I can run WIndows 64... But I need to get my hands on it first. And I'll have to re-install everything I have + different drivers. Well I knew that already of course, but it's a hell of a lot of work. Still, then I caN install my extra Gig of RAM and it would probably allow me to play the merchant fleet mod, FM interior... Guess I'll give it a go when I have a free weekend.

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

With 32-bit Windows, OTOH, your entire system is limited to 4 gigs of RAM, because that's the maximum your operating system will recognize and make use of.

Que? I thought Steve said Windows 32bit was limited to 2 Gigs?

Gerald · 06-07-11, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Thanks Steve & Frau. Yubba was quoting me (made a typo I guess) but he probably wanted to know the same thing.

Well it seems I can run WIndows 64... But I need to get my hands on it first. And I'll have to re-install everything I have + different drivers. Well I knew that already of course, but it's a hell of a lot of work. Still, then I caN install my extra Gig of RAM and it would probably allow me to play the merchant fleet mod, FM interior... Guess I'll give it a go when I have a free weekend.

Que? I thought Steve said Windows 32bit was limited to 2 Gigs?

No, 3072 MB,with 32-bit

Bakkels · 06-07-11, 09:03 AM

Oh I thought that would explain my problems with adding the 3rd gig to my RAM but I guess its just a bad memory block then...
Well thanks anyway.

yubba · 06-07-11, 09:07 AM

My bad, fat fingers small keyboard, but info helpful.

Gerald · 06-07-11, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Oh I thought that would explain my problems with adding the 3rd gig to my RAM but I guess its just a bad memory block then...
Well thanks anyway.

I say only the limit of 32-bit capable of,not what Steve have in his PC

frau kaleun · 06-07-11, 09:17 AM

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Que? I thought Steve said Windows 32bit was limited to 2 Gigs?

He may have been talking about the game itself, I don't know.

Which is why I said it's important not to confuse memory limitations imposed by the OS and/or amount of RAM on board, with the limitations imposed by an unpatched SH3.exe file.

The game is limited to using 2 gigs, regardless of the OS and amount of RAM available, unless you apply the 4GB patch to it.

Windows 32-bit is limited to using 4 gigs overall, so patching the game to use 4 gigs even with 4 gigs on board is of limited value as there will never be a full 4 gigs available for it. It may still be of some value if you have enough RAM to give the game more than 2 gigs to play with.

Gerald · 06-07-11, 09:27 AM

But it is possible if you have the skills to get more of an 3072 mb,if you go into your OS, and makes some changes,however,I use W7 64-bit likely that most of us now more have and then you will experience no problems ... rather how many GIG you want in your memory, if your motherboard supports that type of upgrade.

Sailor Steve · 06-07-11, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels

Que? I thought Steve said Windows 32bit was limited to 2 Gigs?

I did say that in my first post, or that I "found out" that was the case. I tried to clarify that that was what I thought someone else had said. You have to understand that I can only go by what I've read here, because I don't know anything. I'm trying to learn though. Currently rebuilding a guitar.

Bakkels · 06-07-11, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I did say that in my first post, or that I "found out" that was the case. I tried to clarify that that was what I thought someone else had said. You have to understand that I can only go by what I've read here, because I don't know anything. I'm trying to learn though. Currently rebuilding a guitar.

Ah ok, I'll do some more research of my own then

Oh and @Frau, I know sh3 won't be able to use more than 2Gigs without the patch. But first I've got to get my PC to accept that third Gig in the frst place..

btw Steve, electric or accoustic? I've been thinking on buying some Warmoth parts and putting together my own dream-strat.

Gerald · 06-07-11, 06:39 PM

Bakkels! How many frame slots available on motherboards, and how many gigs can you get in,

Bakkels · 06-07-11, 06:47 PM

There are four slots:
Slot 1: original 512 MB
Slot 2: original 512 MB
Slot 3: 1 Gig -> one from the two pieces I bought some time ago
Slot 4: nothing

So I've got a 1 Gig piece that it won't take. It's the same brand and type as the other one. I'm starting to think this one is just broken, because it's not the slot. I switched the one in slot 3 to slot 4 and it still works.
Only when I put in the other 1 Gig my pc won't boot...

Gerald · 06-07-11, 06:52 PM

It may be a conflict if you have problems, try re-packaging of RAM,How much support motherboard?

Bakkels · 06-07-11, 06:59 PM

What do you mean exactly by 're-packaging'?

And you mean if my motherboard doesn't support any more RAM? Well I know that it should, at least that's what it says in the manual that came with it...

Gerald · 06-07-11, 07:15 PM

Re-packaging, meant that you could trade places with them memories that are.Ok then you have the opportunity to see how much you can get in, but most likely is 4 GIG or 8 at best, however you can take home a small program , which is simple and does not interfere in any way and you will see the relevant information,can be useful,link

http://download.cnet.com/CPU-Z/3000-...-10050423.html

frau kaleun · 06-07-11, 07:16 PM

If the mobo is set up for dual-channel memory, it may require that you use RAM sticks in sets of two. Or it may accept just one stick in one of a pair of slots, but only if it's in a particular slot (not sure about this but I think sometimes that's the case). Consult your mobo documentation, it should have that information. If you don't have the documentation, see if you can find out what make/model your mobo is and go to the manufacturer's site and into the support section and see if you can find it listed there. (If it's an older model, it may be archived under discontinued products or something to that effect). If they still have info on it, they may very well have the online manual and you can pull it up or download it.

Or you can try putting that one stick in a different slot and see if you can get Windows to recognize it.

06-07-11, 09:03 AM	#18
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	Oh I thought that would explain my problems with adding the 3rd gig to my RAM but I guess its just a bad memory block then... Well thanks anyway. __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

06-07-11, 09:27 AM	#22
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	But it is possible if you have the skills to get more of an 3072 mb,if you go into your OS, and makes some changes,however,I use W7 64-bit likely that most of us now more have and then you will experience no problems ... rather how many GIG you want in your memory, if your motherboard supports that type of upgrade. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-07-11, 06:39 PM	#25
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Bakkels! How many frame slots available on motherboards, and how many gigs can you get in, __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-07-11, 06:47 PM	#26
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	There are four slots: Slot 1: original 512 MB Slot 2: original 512 MB Slot 3: 1 Gig -> one from the two pieces I bought some time ago Slot 4: nothing So I've got a 1 Gig piece that it won't take. It's the same brand and type as the other one. I'm starting to think this one is just broken, because it's not the slot. I switched the one in slot 3 to slot 4 and it still works. Only when I put in the other 1 Gig my pc won't boot... __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

06-07-11, 06:52 PM	#27
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	It may be a conflict if you have problems, try re-packaging of RAM,How much support motherboard? __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-07-11, 09:07 AM	#19
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	My bad, fat fingers small keyboard, but info helpful.

06-07-11, 06:59 PM	#28
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	What do you mean exactly by 're-packaging'? And you mean if my motherboard doesn't support any more RAM? Well I know that it should, at least that's what it says in the manual that came with it... __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

06-07-11, 07:15 PM	#29
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Re-packaging, meant that you could trade places with them memories that are.Ok then you have the opportunity to see how much you can get in, but most likely is 4 GIG or 8 at best, however you can take home a small program , which is simple and does not interfere in any way and you will see the relevant information,can be useful,link http://download.cnet.com/CPU-Z/3000-...-10050423.html __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

06-07-11, 07:16 PM	#30
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	If the mobo is set up for dual-channel memory, it may require that you use RAM sticks in sets of two. Or it may accept just one stick in one of a pair of slots, but only if it's in a particular slot (not sure about this but I think sometimes that's the case). Consult your mobo documentation, it should have that information. If you don't have the documentation, see if you can find out what make/model your mobo is and go to the manufacturer's site and into the support section and see if you can find it listed there. (If it's an older model, it may be archived under discontinued products or something to that effect). If they still have info on it, they may very well have the online manual and you can pull it up or download it. Or you can try putting that one stick in a different slot and see if you can get Windows to recognize it.