Bad childhood I want to stop thinking about. Any ideas?

Castout · 06-03-11, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by danasan

RedMenace,

there is much truth in what Flaxpants said.

The past is finished. All that counts is the here and now and future to work on. Find yourself in real life a friend or partner you can trust on.

Do not let the past and your bad experiences rule your life for another 19 years; not even for another day.

I am pretty sure that you are on your best way right now.

danasan

People who haven't been in traumatic past life can't understand that the victim carries those traumatic experience into their life.

Be it in emotional, psychological scars or even physical ailments.

A victim needs foreclosure and forgiveness brings that. Provided that he or she has completely been freed from her traumatic experience or conditions.

People are not robots nor they have super strength to deal with their problems without difficulty nor can they just casually cut loose ties with their traumatic past.

often if mishandled their traumatic past would turn them to be the kind of people that they hate unwillingly or they destroy their own life out of their own victimization.

danasan · 06-03-11, 04:42 AM

Sorry, I have been through almost the same childhood as he was. With brutality and all. I had never talked about it until I was 31 years old.

And got me some professional help after having a mental breakdown - almost too late.

Maybe I should have mentioned that in my first post.

Edit: Now I am 46 years and much better...

RedMenace · 06-03-11, 04:50 AM

Now that I think about it... almost everyone's been through something traumatic, I guess. Everyone's probably a little jilted one way or the other, maybe I should stop thinking about myself so much.

Hottentot · 06-03-11, 04:56 AM

Depends on what you consider traumatic. Some people get endless supply of drama from spilling the milk to the floor or hitting their thumb with a hammer. What you described is something completely different and you said yourself how much it bothers you. Sure, you can stop thinking about it. The same way as you can clean a house by putting all the dust under a carpet. I know how cliche it is to say something like that, but trust me: in this one instance I know what I'm talking about.

RedMenace · 06-03-11, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

Depends on what you consider traumatic. Some people get endless supply of drama from spilling the milk to the floor or hitting their thumb with a hammer. What you described is something completely different and you said yourself how much it bothers you. Sure, you can stop thinking about it. The same way as you can clean a house by putting all the dust under a carpet. I know how cliche it is to say something like that, but trust me: in this one instance I know what I'm talking about.

Oh I definitely agree with you. If it was as simple as just forgetting about the past, I probably would have done it long ago.

But... there's a lot of pain in this world, you know? Lots and lots and lots.

Castout · 06-03-11, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RedMenace

Oh I definitely agree with you. If it was as simple as just forgetting about the past, I probably would have done it long ago.

But... there's a lot of pain in this world, you know? Lots and lots and lots.

The pain is because you're still holding on to grudge or resentment. In other words witholding forgiveness. Victims usually feel this way especially if the conditions of their victimization still persist or still being experienced on regular basis.

It helps when you know we will all successfully die and that the very people who hurt you are definitely hurt people themselves even when they appear otherwise. They are troubled people themselves and I must say lacking love and even hoping for outpouring of love from the people surrounding them. Even when it is anger or aggression that they are showing. Aggression is love misplaced and rejected after all. If you dig deep these people often explode crying. They need love and forgiveness and forgiving people who hurt them. Unfortunately only God is aware of their condition. And often only God can love them unconditionally. The God whom they never seek and who often hide Himself from them for whatever reason.

Skybird · 06-03-11, 05:20 AM

The past is no more, and the future is uncertain and still not here. The only thing we have for sure, is this one present moment. Nothing exists outside of it.

The emotional pain you feel is because you stuck to things that are not any longer, and the loss you experienced when your parents disappointed you and let you down. Analysing and endlessly discussing things with your friends or your own inner voice, doe snot make it any better. It just forms these memories a nice and warm nest to settle down in.

However, it is not the things themselves that bother us and make us mourning or fearing them but it is our evaluation, our commenting, our note-giving to which we attach all the time. Like in a reflex, a memory comes up - and immediately an inner dialogue starts to flow down the channels of our inner mind. And the more often this is repeated, the deeper the channel digs its bed into our mind.

Do not try to "manage" your sadness, no human can do that, trying it only delays the healing, may hide it from the surface, but only at the price of it becoming stronger and stronger. One day you'll meet it again unexpectedly but then it easily could have turned into something that overwhelms you.

Instead of doing something, let it go. Just this: let it.

Now, for us modern hyperactive, omnipotent brainmonsters used to manage even the worst of the worst disasters and never show a sign of weakness or pessimism, this is easier said than done. And if we nevertheless let things be, and some time later tell ourselves or our friends we successfully let things go, we nevertheless are still occupied by them plus the illusion of having let them go. Our luggage has grown.

But there is something you can do, and that is to always lead your mind back to the present moment you live in, your breathing, the most imminent and immediate thing you currently do. Neither become angry with yourself nor try to fight against your mind when you realize you have drifted back into past memories again and you feel sad again. Just recall that even the next minute is most uncertain and that your current stroke of breath is the only thing that you really have. Patiently lead your drifting mind back to the present moment. Dont evaluate the inner images of the past. Refuse to comment on them once you became aware you are drifting again. When you realize you drift, gently lead yourself back to the present moment. Do it time and again. You will do it very, very often. After some time, you will have turned it into a habit. That is good. When the habit has become so omnipresent that there are no more interruptions between different times when you practice it, then you are truly free.

Pain like yours cannot be "managed". It cannot be made to turn away. It needs to heal naturally, all by itself, in the time that it takes. It will not take too much or too few time. It will just take that time that it takes, not more and not less. Seen that way, it is perfect, and always right on time. That must be a tough nut for an impatient 19 year old, eh?

The past is no more. The future is not yet to be. All life is within this present single moment. Understanding this is key to everything. In this understanding lies true and unlimited freedom. In the end, everything we believe to experience, is temporal only and cannot last, and if we try to form our felicity by making temporal things everlasting, we necessarily must get disappointed, for they will go sooner or later. This is even true with regard to love, and parents. But we do not suffer because these things are hurting us or are not in order. Things just are the way they are, and we are free to let them go and move on, or to cling to them and allow them to occupy us. In other words: we suffer because we are not in order.

Life often is said to be a voyage. So travel on and leave behind your current stay. Bon voyage!

Castout · 06-03-11, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by danasan

Sorry, I have been through almost the same childhood as he was. With brutality and all. I had never talked about it until I was 31 years old.

And got me some professional help after having a mental breakdown - almost too late.

Maybe I should have mentioned that in my first post.

Edit: Now I am 46 years and much better...

That's it. These things are never a small problem. You should know. Trying to ignore it or trying to make it small would only accumulate the problems only to explode in a destructive way later on in life and often when it is too late and after much destruction to self and to other people.

I tend to agree with Hottentot about getting professional help. And I may add to seek spiritual side of you. To find solace in God. The thing is RedMenace should not be too hard on himself. One thing for sure he's on the right track by opening up and trying to get help even by simply starting this thread. That speaks of the hope that he has within him. For that alone it shows he has the awareness and willingness to bring closure. H e wants to move on to better things and has some optimism. If victim can reflect back or talk about their traumatic experience with ease or without distress it is always a sign of healing.

Hottentot · 06-03-11, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout

People who haven't been in traumatic past life can't understand that the victim carries those traumatic experience into their life.

I'm inclined to agree. And that is why I would suggest professional help. Not in a belittling way, but because they are usually far more qualified to help with matters like these than a group of friendly and well meaning forum writers. And besides, the two methods don't exclude each other.

RedMenace, you say you are going to college. I suppose your college offers some sort of help for students having such problems? At least ours do, I know since I'm a student myself. So if I were in your situation, my first step would be contacting them and seeing where it goes from there.

06-03-11, 04:50 AM	#3
RedMenace Chief Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 319 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Now that I think about it... almost everyone's been through something traumatic, I guess. Everyone's probably a little jilted one way or the other, maybe I should stop thinking about myself so much. __________________

06-03-11, 04:56 AM	#4
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Depends on what you consider traumatic. Some people get endless supply of drama from spilling the milk to the floor or hitting their thumb with a hammer. What you described is something completely different and you said yourself how much it bothers you. Sure, you can stop thinking about it. The same way as you can clean a house by putting all the dust under a carpet. I know how cliche it is to say something like that, but trust me: in this one instance I know what I'm talking about. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

06-03-11, 05:20 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The past is no more, and the future is uncertain and still not here. The only thing we have for sure, is this one present moment. Nothing exists outside of it. The emotional pain you feel is because you stuck to things that are not any longer, and the loss you experienced when your parents disappointed you and let you down. Analysing and endlessly discussing things with your friends or your own inner voice, doe snot make it any better. It just forms these memories a nice and warm nest to settle down in. However, it is not the things themselves that bother us and make us mourning or fearing them but it is our evaluation, our commenting, our note-giving to which we attach all the time. Like in a reflex, a memory comes up - and immediately an inner dialogue starts to flow down the channels of our inner mind. And the more often this is repeated, the deeper the channel digs its bed into our mind. Do not try to "manage" your sadness, no human can do that, trying it only delays the healing, may hide it from the surface, but only at the price of it becoming stronger and stronger. One day you'll meet it again unexpectedly but then it easily could have turned into something that overwhelms you. Instead of doing something, let it go. Just this: let it. Now, for us modern hyperactive, omnipotent brainmonsters used to manage even the worst of the worst disasters and never show a sign of weakness or pessimism, this is easier said than done. And if we nevertheless let things be, and some time later tell ourselves or our friends we successfully let things go, we nevertheless are still occupied by them plus the illusion of having let them go. Our luggage has grown. But there is something you can do, and that is to always lead your mind back to the present moment you live in, your breathing, the most imminent and immediate thing you currently do. Neither become angry with yourself nor try to fight against your mind when you realize you have drifted back into past memories again and you feel sad again. Just recall that even the next minute is most uncertain and that your current stroke of breath is the only thing that you really have. Patiently lead your drifting mind back to the present moment. Dont evaluate the inner images of the past. Refuse to comment on them once you became aware you are drifting again. When you realize you drift, gently lead yourself back to the present moment. Do it time and again. You will do it very, very often. After some time, you will have turned it into a habit. That is good. When the habit has become so omnipresent that there are no more interruptions between different times when you practice it, then you are truly free. Pain like yours cannot be "managed". It cannot be made to turn away. It needs to heal naturally, all by itself, in the time that it takes. It will not take too much or too few time. It will just take that time that it takes, not more and not less. Seen that way, it is perfect, and always right on time. That must be a tough nut for an impatient 19 year old, eh? The past is no more. The future is not yet to be. All life is within this present single moment. Understanding this is key to everything. In this understanding lies true and unlimited freedom. In the end, everything we believe to experience, is temporal only and cannot last, and if we try to form our felicity by making temporal things everlasting, we necessarily must get disappointed, for they will go sooner or later. This is even true with regard to love, and parents. But we do not suffer because these things are hurting us or are not in order. Things just are the way they are, and we are free to let them go and move on, or to cling to them and allow them to occupy us. In other words: we suffer because we are not in order. Life often is said to be a voyage. So travel on and leave behind your current stay. Bon voyage! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-03-11 at 05:40 AM.

06-03-11, 04:42 AM	#2
danasan Elite Spam Hunter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Flensburg / Germany Posts: 1,141 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Sorry, I have been through almost the same childhood as he was. With brutality and all. I had never talked about it until I was 31 years old. And got me some professional help after having a mental breakdown - almost too late. Maybe I should have mentioned that in my first post. Edit: Now I am 46 years and much better...