FIFA going down the drain - Page 2

Egan · 05-30-11, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

What's FIFA?

</Typical American>

The Federation of International Football Associations. The world governing body of football and the organizers of the World Cup. They are an organization with more members than the UN and are currently embroiled in scandal because their love of corruption is becoming openly brazen. They are presided over by the 72 year old Swiss (or Swizz might be more appropriate in this case,) Sepp Blatter who has run the show for 12 years now and appears to be utterly bullet proof as best shown by the fact that his only challenger in next months presidential election has just been suspended from the FIFA congress over allegations of corruption and bribery. See above for the other details...

Just listened to Blatter's Press conference on the radio. Jeez....Unbelievable arrogance....it isn't even funny any more. He still doesn't even seem to admit that FIFA has a problem.

papa_smurf · 05-30-11, 02:31 PM

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Sepp Blatter has insisted that Fifa is not in crisis,

He is either in denial, or knows something that could ruin hie re-election chances.

Egan · 05-30-11, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

He is either in denial, or knows something that could ruin hie re-election chances.

Well, Warner is threatening to unleash a 'tsunami' which should be good fun. Nothing like people implicating themselves in order to implicate others.

His entire attitude at the press conference was amazing. A BBC correspondent on 5Live was claiming that several of the questions were from plants. Given the way he responded to anyone that tried to ask him even slightly difficult questions I can well believe it.

I wish he'd stop using the word 'family' to describe FIFA. It makes them sound more like the Mafia than they do already!

Bakkels · 05-30-11, 03:49 PM

Jimbuna · 05-30-11, 05:02 PM

Watched the press conference on Sky...does the arrogance of the man have any boundaries?

Egan · 06-01-11, 01:00 PM

Sepp wins re-election! Football is saved once again!

The Argentinian Vice -president (one of Blatter's boys, remember,) calls the Allegations from England and the English media lies and claimis he would have voted for the English bid if 'they had given the Falkland Islands back'.

Good grief.

Jimbuna · 06-01-11, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Egan

Sepp wins re-election! Football is saved once again!

The Argentinian Vice -president (one of Blatter's boys, remember,) calls the Allegations from England and the English media lies and claimis he would have voted for the English bid if 'they had given the Falkland Islands back'.

Good grief.

I'll send him something to wear...something he'll find useful and feel at home/comfortable with.

BossMark · 06-01-11, 01:51 PM

Sepp Blatter and his Argentine sidekick are corrupt as corrupt can be, its so annoying that pillocks likes these are allowed to run the great game.

Jimbuna · 06-01-11, 01:57 PM

Well I should imagine they'll now attempt a cull against those who didn't give their support today

Egan · 06-01-11, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well I should imagine they'll now attempt a cull against those who didn't give their support today

17 federations abstained from the vote. The FA and the SFA were two, who were the others? The US? Australia? Quite likely. The Netherlands I think are also fairly likely, they were supposed to be furious with the bidding process in December. Doesn't matter now. Like you said, FIFA's Night of the Long Knives is on it's way.

As a point of interest, though, the FA report which apparently cleared the 4 FIFA members named by Lord Triesman in the parliamentary select committee did not - as FIFA and Blatter claim - exonerate them. It simply found that hearsay and private and off the record conversations did not constitute enough evidence to start an inquiry. So that's alright then!

Jimbuna · 06-01-11, 03:57 PM

I've just read in my local paper that the USA were scathing of our FA...."Too little too late, why wait for a parliamentary debate before complaing? Typical FA, always behind the curve and never in front of it" etc.

Sadly, I believe they are good points.

Bakkels · 06-01-11, 07:11 PM

Well I'm sorry Jim, but I think they're not. Maybe the FA got pissed because they missed out on the World Cup organization but still; they had a very good point. In this case the end justifies the means. (Is that an expression in English? Anyway...) I don't care why the FA opposes Blatter, it's important that somebody does. And in this case, it was the freaking British FA! A lot of countries passed on a very rare opportunity to really unite as a front against Blatter.
There were rumors our Dutch association would support the FA's standpoint but they didn't have the balls... And I know why, Michael van Praag has already been promised a high position within the hierarchy. Probable to take Maldini's place as UEFA's president when Maldini replaces Blatter. Of course, voting against Blatter would threaten this, so they decided to vote for the old Swiss bastard.

This is seriously worse than politics. This is so openly corrupt I can't find the words for it...

And maybe someone knows it here, but would corruption within the FIFA be criminal? I mean, they are their own organization, but could they be charged with anything on a legal basis?

Egan · 06-02-11, 05:58 AM

Whilst the US has a point about the FA it also needs to be aware of it's own role in this fiasco. Chuck Blazer, Warner's long time deputy at CONCACAF doesn't seem to have had any problems with his bosses alleged corruption until after the US did almost as badly as England in the December bid. This is odd because accusations of corruption have dogged Warner for over a decade now.

And of course England are guilty of this as well. The digusting attempt at unity with FIFA following the Panorama program in the winter, and the FA's claims that the British media were unpatriotic for daring to expose FIFA corruption, show them up badly.

Blazer claimed other day that FiFA itself was not corrupt but certain individuals are. I think he is wrong. I think the organisation is corrupt at a very basic level. FIFA is terrified at any prospect of outside, independant investigation and we have to ask ourselves why. I think we already know.

There is so much more to this: the envy FIFA has of the riches of European club football and the champions league; the hatred of England (speaking as a Scot this is apparent even to me..lol) based on it's historical role within the game and the vast finincial clout of the premiership; it,s desire to expand it's influence into markets where money is bountiful but regulation and free media monitoring aren't.....

Of course, one of the good things to have come out of this is this: i am positive more than one British newspaper editors will have declared open season on FIFA. Say what you like about our broadsheats and our Redtops but they never forget a slight, never forget a face and they know where you live. It's going to get interesting.

Jimbuna · 06-02-11, 06:16 AM

^+1

TarJak · 06-02-11, 06:31 AM

And meanwhile the players and fans are left wondering how this can be let happen...

The whole shebang needs a good flush out. Problem being what do you replace it with that doesn't involve people who might get greedy?

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05-30-11, 05:02 PM	#20
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,741 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Watched the press conference on Sky...does the arrogance of the man have any boundaries? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-01-11, 01:57 PM	#24
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,741 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well I should imagine they'll now attempt a cull against those who didn't give their support today __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-01-11, 03:57 PM	#26
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,741 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I've just read in my local paper that the USA were scathing of our FA...."Too little too late, why wait for a parliamentary debate before complaing? Typical FA, always behind the curve and never in front of it" etc. Sadly, I believe they are good points. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-01-11, 07:11 PM	#27
Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	Well I'm sorry Jim, but I think they're not. Maybe the FA got pissed because they missed out on the World Cup organization but still; they had a very good point. In this case the end justifies the means. (Is that an expression in English? Anyway...) I don't care why the FA opposes Blatter, it's important that somebody does. And in this case, it was the freaking British FA! A lot of countries passed on a very rare opportunity to really unite as a front against Blatter. There were rumors our Dutch association would support the FA's standpoint but they didn't have the balls... And I know why, Michael van Praag has already been promised a high position within the hierarchy. Probable to take Maldini's place as UEFA's president when Maldini replaces Blatter. Of course, voting against Blatter would threaten this, so they decided to vote for the old Swiss bastard. This is seriously worse than politics. This is so openly corrupt I can't find the words for it... And maybe someone knows it here, but would corruption within the FIFA be criminal? I mean, they are their own organization, but could they be charged with anything on a legal basis? __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

06-01-11, 01:00 PM	#21
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Sepp wins re-election! Football is saved once again! The Argentinian Vice -president (one of Blatter's boys, remember,) calls the Allegations from England and the English media lies and claimis he would have voted for the English bid if 'they had given the Falkland Islands back'. Good grief.

06-01-11, 01:51 PM	#23
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Sepp Blatter and his Argentine sidekick are corrupt as corrupt can be, its so annoying that pillocks likes these are allowed to run the great game.

06-02-11, 05:58 AM	#28
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Whilst the US has a point about the FA it also needs to be aware of it's own role in this fiasco. Chuck Blazer, Warner's long time deputy at CONCACAF doesn't seem to have had any problems with his bosses alleged corruption until after the US did almost as badly as England in the December bid. This is odd because accusations of corruption have dogged Warner for over a decade now. And of course England are guilty of this as well. The digusting attempt at unity with FIFA following the Panorama program in the winter, and the FA's claims that the British media were unpatriotic for daring to expose FIFA corruption, show them up badly. Blazer claimed other day that FiFA itself was not corrupt but certain individuals are. I think he is wrong. I think the organisation is corrupt at a very basic level. FIFA is terrified at any prospect of outside, independant investigation and we have to ask ourselves why. I think we already know. There is so much more to this: the envy FIFA has of the riches of European club football and the champions league; the hatred of England (speaking as a Scot this is apparent even to me..lol) based on it's historical role within the game and the vast finincial clout of the premiership; it,s desire to expand it's influence into markets where money is bountiful but regulation and free media monitoring aren't..... Of course, one of the good things to have come out of this is this: i am positive more than one British newspaper editors will have declared open season on FIFA. Say what you like about our broadsheats and our Redtops but they never forget a slight, never forget a face and they know where you live. It's going to get interesting.

06-02-11, 06:16 AM	#29
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,741 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^+1 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-02-11, 06:31 AM	#30
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	And meanwhile the players and fans are left wondering how this can be let happen... The whole shebang needs a good flush out. Problem being what do you replace it with that doesn't involve people who might get greedy?