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Gun-control advocates claim that denying guns to everyone means that gun crimes will be stopped.

Thats false twice, or even three times if you look.

Here is a society with strong gun controls

Are you kidding?

Then you go on to passages I didn't quote.
But anyway lets deal with some

His stated point, and I do agree.

I agree, gun control does not stop gun crime, but only an idiot would claim it did so putting that up as a position to oppose is pure bull.
Effective gun control may reduce gun crime but the only way to stop gun crime is to make gun crime legal.

A positive case made for his argument. He may or may not be right, but he clarifies his argument and attempts to make his point. Where is the strawman?

Its in the wording again, he builds a false claim to argue against.
In this case "eliminates"
In each instance he is taking it to absolutes to make a "good" case to stand against but each time is instead making a "false" case to knock down.

Here we have a set of irrelevant jabs intended to minimize August's points

No, there you have 4 jabs which minimize augusts points and a response to Jims funny about prison "recreation" activities

If you look at the Darkfish exchange you can see it clearly, he takes a position and changes it in the same way so he can knock it, classic strawman

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

If you look at the Darkfish exchange you can see it clearly, he takes a position and changes it in the same way so he can knock it, classic strawman

Exactly. August is making a case against a point no one argues by twisting my words. And Steve seems to join him in doing so.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by DarkFish

And Steve seems to join him in doing so.

This is the first time I've even addressed you in this thread, so it's kind of hard for me to be "joining" anybody in "twisting" anything. I don't even support August in everything he says. My only point in all of this is that Tribesman doesn't even address the issue; his only purpose seems to be to mock and criticize.

This is the first time I've even addressed you in this thread

Unfortunately you jumped in to support a strawman August set up when he changed the words Darkfish had used

My only point in all of this is that Tribesman doesn't even address the issue

Pointing out that August is setting up fake positions to argue against is addressing the issue.
I raised plenty of points to address the issues and non issues raised
But here is one issue just for you which you already ignored.
Do you honestly think the UK has strong gun controls?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Unfortunately you jumped in to support a strawman August set up when he changed the words Darkfish had used

I didn't address Darkfish. I supported August against your insipid diatribe. Anything more is you creating your own strawman, as I said before. Also you manage to ignore what I said about not fully agreeing with August. But you only see what you want to see.

Pointing out that August is setting up fake positions to argue against is addressing the issue.
I raised plenty of points to address the issues and non issues raised
But here is one issue just for you which you already ignored.

And I specifically addressed the post in which you said nothing but nonsense.

Do you honestly think the UK has strong gun controls?

I honestly don't know, but a great many US gun-control advocates point to the UK as a shining example of how it should work, which is what August addressed in his first post.

[Freiwillige]

Quite often the argument against the gun owners of America is that were afraid. Living in fear hiding behind our guns. For some that may be true. I own a gun so I don't have to be afraid. Just remember that 33,000,000 legal gun owners didn't murder anybody today.