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Old 05-26-11, 01:31 PM   #28
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So by murder he automatically loses all of his constitutional rights? So, by your logic if you commit a crime you forfeit constitutional rights.. So at precisely what level of crime is it that you get to kiss your bill of rights goodbye?
Actually yes he does. He loses the right to vote, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to liberty, the right to the pursuit of happiness, and sometimes the right to life.

A person who commits murder, as with the person who commits most any crime, loses his freedom. For how long depends on the nature of the crime. This man lost his freedom because of his original crime. He was put in solitary because he murdered people inside the prison. Do you think he shouldn't be punished beyond his original sentence? Should they just extend his sentence. What about the second murder he commited while in prison? The third?

We outsiders have two problems here. The first is exactly what should be done when this sort of thing happens. The other is the question, as August mentioned, of whether this "person" is even telling the truth. And, as August also said, this will be resolved when his upcoming review takes place.

Now I have a question for you: Exactly what Constitutional rights should a murderer retain? Freedom of speech? Religion? Assembly? Arms? Search and Siezures? Self-Incrimination? In prison, as in the military, those rights are modified somewhat if not removed altogether. What rights do you think should be retained?

[edit] The right to vote and the right to keep and bear arms are permanently denied any convicted felon, and for life. I disagree with those, as I believe that a man who has served his time has indeed "paid his debt to society". That said, we're not talking about that situation, but about people currently serving their time.
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