Bin Laden is dead, official

[Mush Martin]

Sounds like both sides in this thread are smothering objectivity with propaganda.

I believe David Ray Griffin Presents enough info to warrant an Independent
investigation, to make up for the clearly inadequate 911Report.
I do not purport to know the result of such an investigation in advance,
I just feel that if it were on my vote, the indications are that a new investigation is warranted.
M

[tonschk]

Is this building collapsing or EXPLODING ?

Check out the full video here...

As CCIP posted, all he is doing is burping up links.

And he just burped up a link by someone who by their comments is absolutley dumb as could possibly be, seriously FFS "evidence" should at least be based on an arguement that has some relation to reality, that last piece is just laughable, only a complete muppet could make such silly claims as are on that link

[tonschk]

http://www.csi911.info/CSI911.html

POINT #1:
"The North Tower was 1,368 ft tall.
Free fall time to the ground with no resistance (drag) is approximately 9.25 seconds."
</B> Height / Distance = the N.Y. Port Authority data.
Time = Square root of (Distance, divided by 16 ).

The North Tower, all 110 floors, "destroyed" in approximately 10 Seconds.
This is approximately 0.09 Sec. Per floor.
</B>Not my numbers, this is from CNN Video - Fox Video -
Even in the 9/11 Commission Report.

POINT #2:
There were "... no fires in the core. "
Bill Manning Editor in chief of Fire Engineering Magazine. F.D.N.Y. Transcripts

The path of greatest resistance would be straight down.
The Core of the Tower was "A Building Within the Building"
47 Steel Columns 12 columns 54" x 22" plus 35 columns 24" x 18"
Aprox. dimensions from Bed Rock to 66th fl. Columns 'taper' as they rise higher.

"...over designed to resist hurricane force winds and downward pressure".
</B>They all fell away, striped clean of their sprayed-on asbestos fire proofing,
each column broken apart neatly at its joints, not bent, not melted, not heated. </B>

[Torplexed]

Oh lookie! Somebody is spitting out their coveted collection of 9/11 spam.

That's supposed to make us all drop our jaws and say "OMG it was a conspiracy!"

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

That's supposed to make us all drop our jaws and say "OMG it was a conspiracy!"

I guess so....I always find it fun to seem them utterly fail without any input by themselves as they just copy and paste the nonesense they glanced over someplace else and paste it here and move on.

Conspiracy..it's as much of an conspiracy as it is that actually someone else drank my coffee......*looks in cup* SONOFA.....!!!

HunterICX

[MH]

Assuming what you say is true we should go to basics.

I need a motive for destroying B7 so long after WTC collapse.
Who was so stupid to plan this in such a complicated way and demolished B7 in front of cameras.
Why would he want to do such a dumb thing.
Why demolish WTC at all?

Half of what happen in 9/11 would achieve the objective with American public so why the risks?

Someone should investigate the stupidity and over complicity of this government cover up and fire the sucker.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by MH

Assuming what you say is true we should go to basics.

I need a motive for destroying B7 so long after WTC collapse.
Who was so stupid to plan this in such a complicated way and demolished B7 in front of cameras.
Why would he want to do such a dumb thing.
Why demolish WTC at all?

Half of what happen in 9/11 would achieve the objective with American public so why the risks?

Someone should investigate the stupidity and over complicity of this government cover up and fire the sucker.

Unfortunately , not everything ran smoothly for the controlled demolition team, probably the plan was to controlled detonated the WTC building seven soon after the disintegration of the WTC North tower to cover-up the demolition of building seven with the colossal clous of pulverised dust of the previous controlled demolition, the explosions were going off inside the WTC building seven since about 9 am, some detonators (Due to the previous explosions) inside the WTC building seven become a dud and the controlled demolition team have no way out other than lit some fires inside WTC Building seven , hopefully the naive people will swallow the lie of a fire induced collapse for the first time in history in a Steel reinforce Frame building

Eyewitness explosions inside WTC building seven

[MH]

Originally Posted by tonschk

Unfortunately , not everything was ran smoothly for the controlled demolition team, probably the plan was to controlled detonated the WTC building seven soon after the disintegration of the WTC North tower to cover-up the demolition of building seven with he colossal clous of pulverised dust of the previous controlled demolition, the explosions were going off inside the WTC building seven since about 9 am, the detonators indside the WTC building seven become a dud and the controlled demolition team have no way out other than lit some fires inside WTC Building seven , hopefully the naive people will swallow the lie of a fire induced collapse for the first time in history in a Steel reinforce Frame building

Why such a complicated plan?
Pentagon would do the job.
Exploding the planes in the air would do the job .....what is that insurance company scam?

[August]

Originally Posted by MH

motive

You nail it. These conspiracy nuts are always long on technical falderal but woefully short on motive.

[Mush Martin]

Originally Posted by August

You nail it. These conspiracy nuts are always long on technical falderal but woefully short on motive.

3billion in SEC securities fraud investigation Vapourized.

More than that in Missing defence spending Under investigation.

Both investigations ended with the collapse of building seven,

Heck Im not on either side and motive is pretty easy to see.

but theres a whole lot of rhetoric and bunk flying in both directions.

so I am just withdrawing from this ever less objective thread.

Regards to all.
M.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by tonschk

POINT #1:
"The North Tower was 1,368 ft tall.
Free fall time to the ground with no resistance (drag) is approximately 9.25 seconds."
</B> Height / Distance = the N.Y. Port Authority data.
Time = Square root of (Distance, divided by 16 ).

The North Tower, all 110 floors, "destroyed" in approximately 10 Seconds.
This is approximately 0.09 Sec. Per floor.
</B>Not my numbers, this is from CNN Video - Fox Video -
Even in the 9/11 Commission Report.

Guess no one was arsed to actually check what the conspiracy theories claim.

South Tower: ~15 seconds
North Tower: ~22 seconds

9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center - No Free-Fall speed


9/11 Debunked: WTC 7's Collapse Explained

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Guess no one was arsed to actually check what the conspiracy theories claim.

South Tower: ~15 seconds
North Tower: ~22 seconds

9/11 Debunked: World Trade Center - No Free-Fall speed


9/11 Debunked: WTC 7's Collapse Explained

Rosie o'donnell said it, it must be true.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by Mush Martin

3billion in SEC securities fraud investigation Vapourized.

More than that in Missing defence spending Under investigation.

Both investigations ended with the collapse of building seven,

Heck Im not on either side and motive is pretty easy to see.

.

[MH]

Originally Posted by tonschk

Why you so happy?
It sort of contradicts the whole conspiracy theory then.
The attack really happen but Israelis knew about it beforehand?