Bin Laden is dead, official

[yubba]

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by tonschk

More than 1500 Architects and Engineers are questioning the george bush Official theory about what happened on 9/11/2001

http://www.ae911truth.org/

If you read some of the comments of the people signing the petition, not all of them think there was a conspiracy. Some of them are interested in why the nation was not better prepared for the attack. Not exactly conspiracy material.

I am not going to take the time to read all 1500 (or what ever the total is) but at least a few do not mention any conspiracy.

[CCIP]

But hey, "the truth" must be one thing, and on the extreme side of either spectrum. Otherwise it's boring and doesn't let people wave their ultrainformed egos around.

[tonschk]

The Facts Speak For Themselves

http://911truthnews.com/the-facts-speak-for-themselves/

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by tonschk

The Facts Speak For Themselves

http://911truthnews.com/the-facts-speak-for-themselves/

Then why does the article begin with a picture of a guy speaking them?

Facts don't speak. Facts are only interpreted, and there is a very clear and forceful interpretation given to them in that article. Weasely language there.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Then why does the article begin with a picture of a guy speaking them?

Facts don't speak. Facts are only interpreted, and there is a very clear and forceful interpretation given to them in that article. Weasely language there.

I just wasted my time reading these 50 "facts". None of them seem to indicate that the US government was involved in the planning or execution of the 911 attacks. Most of these facts dealt with what happened after the attacks

Don't waste your time like I just did.

[tonschk]

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It imploded at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.
7 Facts about Building 7

1) If fire caused Building 7 to collapse, it would be the first ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise.
2) Building 7---8217;s collapse was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.
3) According to a Zogby poll in 2006, 43% of Americans did not know about Building 7.
4) It took the federal government seven years to conduct an investigation and issue a report for Building 7.
5) 1,500+architects and engineers have signed a petition calling for a new investigation that would include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives for the collapse of Building 7.
6) Numerous witnesses say the possibility of demolishing Building 7 was widely discussed by emergency personnel at the scene and advocated by the building---8217;s owner.
7) Building 7 housed several intelligence and law enforcement agencies, and the NYC Office of Emergency Management---8217;s Emergency Operations Center, more commonly known as ---8220;Giuliani---8217;s Bunker---8221;.

[Sailor Steve]

So, if the point of the destruction of the Trade Center was to fake a terrorist attack and get us to go into Iraq, what exactly was the point of destroying a building nobody knew about? It didn't make us more angry, because we didn't know about it. In fact it seems to have served no purpose at all except to let those you who are smarter than the rest of us have more 'evidence' of the conspiracy. Pretty stupid of them.

I will reiterate my question: How did American agents manage to plant all those explosives with no one noticing?

This is beginning to look more and more like the Kennedy conspiracy. Sure, it could be true, but all of the "facts" presented so far show exactly nothing. Let's see some actual proof, please.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

You're all saying "The evidence is questionable" about the conspiracy theory.

But you're all forgetting that the evidence for the non-conspiracy version is also questionable.

Does anybody here have any hard physical evidence that proves the original story?

So, like I said, what is truth? All we have is theories.

Planes crashed into the towers. The towers fell down. Those are facts. That's the evidence for the "non-conspiracy" version. Was the US government behind it? You're perfectly welcome to think so, and no, no one is going to throw bombs at your house.

Your "two theories" fun is about the same as when the atheist says "You can't prove there's a God", and the believer retorts with "You can't prove there isn't!" The two are not the same. When you claim something beyond the obvious the burden of proof is on you.

I might start getting enemies around here and people throwing Molotov cocktails in my house cos I have a different opinion.

Its a molotov conspiracy I tell ya, your house isn't real it is a lie which was made up by journalists and politicians working for bilderberg inc. step through the door and move into the real world, get away from the house its a trap.

More than 1500 Architects and Engineers

So that would be say perhaps just 0.0001% of the architects and engineers currently eating a boiled egg for breakfast in central London....pretty impressive figure you have there

[tonschk]

World Trade Center Tower 7 (47 Stories Tall) blasted into a pile of rubble in just Seven SECONDS


if the controlled demolition of building seven is fishy/suspicious , also the destruction of the WTC twin towers become suspicious





Danny Jovenko controlled demolition expert, show concern about the obvious controlled demolition of WTC building seven

[tonschk]

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[CCIP]

Alright, now you're just spamming links :/

Originally Posted by tonschk

if the controlled demolition of building seven is fishy/suspicious , also the destruction of the WTC twin towers become suspicious

And there we have exactly the logical fallacy I was talking about. With full acknowledgment that any version of what happened on Sept 11th is inherently unlikely, you can't build a broader theory of all events of the day based on one very unlikely and unascertained (but rather just 'suspicious') version of one peripheral event.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I will reiterate my question: How did American agents manage to plant all those explosives with no one noticing?

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9/11 World Trade Center Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush ,


Marvin P. Bush, the president---8217;s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911security.html


Marvin Bush and the Planting of Explosives

http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_09.htm


Bush Family Exposed; Marvin, George Jr. & Sr. Put Bin Laden & Oil Interests 1st


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4023723700225520669#


Marvin Bush and the World Trade Center Twin Towers left unmonitered.

youtube.com ---8212; Time for a rewind. Did you know that the towers where shut down a week before 9/11? Did you know all the cameras and monitoring where stopped while Bush's brothers "maintenance" workers fixed "cables". Then they removed the bomb sniffing dogs just before 9/11

[Platapus]

(looking at the scale)

I think he has had enough to eat for a while.

As CCIP posted, all he is doing is burping up links.