Immigration issue heating up again, Can you smell the Amnesty coming?

[Ducimus]

Come to the USA!

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Come to the USA!

Sometimes i feel like im the ONLY one who sees this and finds it unbelievable and up to your eyes in bull***t

THEY come into OUR country illegally. They are FUNDED by the mexican GOVERMENT to safely cross the border. they steal jobs, pay no income tax, most refuse to learn english, they send BILLIONS to the Mexican government every year, and bring more thugs and wannabe gangsters into the already gang hub of California. They totally and completely disobeyed our laws, our system (which does need quite a bit of refining), aren't legal citizens, and give almost nothing positive back to us.

Then, when we got something to say, were accused of racism and all of a sudden everyone backs down. Then they parade in the streets with MEXICAN flags and demand RIGHTS after they blatantly disobeyed and broke the laws of our country and refuse to become citizens at all and pay taxes.

we've gotten too soft. our country is going down the toilet because we seem to have lost the balls to stand up to anything anymore. Immigration, Corporate fat cats, some of the greedy and outrageous unions (such as the teachers of california, who are guaranteed Health care, pension, almost impossibility of firing them, and the highest paid teachers in the COUNTRY and with almost the worst ranked education system, and are now striking for more when California is broke), you name it and we have lost the balls to stand up and crack down on it.

It will be our downfall.

Oh, did i mention that illegals basically get almost free college tuition, free healthcare, and more benefits then any average, law-abiding citizen of the United states could dream of.

[Ducimus]

One more for the trade collection. This is the one that really gets me.

And yes, that picture is real.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/mexicoflag.asp

Of course, nothing will ever be done. The key to the problem, is something that nobody likes the idea of adjusting or changing. The whole anchor baby issue. They come here, they have their baby, who grows up to be a hispanic voter with strong ties to family and it's heritage. In the long run what will happen mexico is taking back the areas it lost from the mexican-american war, without firing a single shot, and using our own laws to do it.

Hispanic culture is deeply rooted in california now. For this state, it's a lost cause as its too late to do anything about illegal immigration. The hispanic vote is huge, and will never let anything in that regard pass.

[TorpX]

It's pretty bad in Chicago too. Remember when they had these demonstrations a few years ago? They had all these "immigrant rights" groups in Chicago marching with Mexican flags (just in case any politician thought about standing up to them). A lot of people didn't like that. The next march they had, all the Mexican flags were gone, replaced by American flags.

Of course, nothing will ever be done.

Obama and the Dems want it; they figure they will get most of their votes. If Obama thought they would vote Republican, he'd spend a trillion dollars to build a 100 ft. high wall on the border and lay a strip of mines to boot.

[Ducimus]

Neither party will do anything. If this wasn't the case, this issue would not continue to be an issue at all.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Sometimes i feel like im the ONLY one who sees this and finds it unbelievable and up to your eyes in bull***t

THEY come into OUR country illegally. They are FUNDED by the mexican GOVERMENT to safely cross the border. they steal jobs, pay no income tax, most refuse to learn english, they send BILLIONS to the Mexican government every year, and bring more thugs and wannabe gangsters into the already gang hub of California. They totally and completely disobeyed our laws, our system (which does need quite a bit of refining), aren't legal citizens, and give almost nothing positive back to us.

Then, when we got something to say, were accused of racism and all of a sudden everyone backs down. Then they parade in the streets with MEXICAN flags and demand RIGHTS after they blatantly disobeyed and broke the laws of our country and refuse to become citizens at all and pay taxes.

we've gotten too soft. our country is going down the toilet because we seem to have lost the balls to stand up to anything anymore. Immigration, Corporate fat cats, some of the greedy and outrageous unions (such as the teachers of california, who are guaranteed Health care, pension, almost impossibility of firing them, and the highest paid teachers in the COUNTRY and with almost the worst ranked education system, and are now striking for more when California is broke), you name it and we have lost the balls to stand up and crack down on it.

It will be our downfall.

Oh, did i mention that illegals basically get almost free college tuition, free healthcare, and more benefits then any average, law-abiding citizen of the United states could dream of.

To play devil's advocate - what about the cheaper labor prices you enjoy (kick all the illegals out and then try and hire roofers or painters...heck even go out to eat at a restaurant and see how much it costs you), the sales taxes and payroll taxes they pay, and economic activity that they also bring with them?

Don't get me wrong. Things need to change. But you can't ignore those factors.

[Ducimus]

Honestly.....
It would do us as a people a world of good. It would lower the unemployment rate filling those jobs with Americans.

Ahh.. but that's the catch isn't it? Supposedly everyone feels entitled, or that doing some blue collar and/or menial labor work is somehow beneath them.

No it isn't. And this is why i think it would do us a world of good. To break that stupid bubble. Reality check is, not everybody has business going to college, because not everybody has the aptitude. The sooner we can sink that into our fat heads, the better off we'll be.

[nikimcbee]

There are some of the farming communities here that are~> 60% Hispanic/migrant worker. It is like being in Mexico here. This is also a magnet state because they give anybody a drivers license and a voter registration card.

This is a one party state, so the fix is in. It's like Chicago politik, but w/o the violent crime.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Honestly.....
It would do us as a people a world of good. It would lower the unemployment rate filling those jobs with Americans.

Ahh.. but that's the catch isn't it? Supposedly everyone feels entitled, or that doing some blue collar and/or menial labor work is somehow beneath them.

No it isn't. And this is why i think it would do us a world of good. To break that stupid bubble. Reality check is, not everybody has business going to college, because not everybody has the aptitude. The sooner we can sink that into our fat heads, the better off we'll be.

You're right. As a teen I did many of these jobs, pick hay, apples, etc.. We will and will always need a low skilled class and we have one, but they're not working, the illegals have the jobs for nothing and too many entitlements...

The farm town I grew up is now like lil Mexico, the main strip you can hardly find a english sign to read.