Those born 1920-1969

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said

My experience with working with ex-Soviet citizens is that they tend to regard Americans as sissies when they start obsessing about exposure to germs, possible lawsuits, second hand smoke or eating something that is a few days past the expiration date. They sometimes put off going to the doctor because they seem to regard pain as a trifle. A stoic lot, they.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said

Nice to meet you comrad, I was born in SFRY

(same up-bringing, better food )

[the_tyrant]

seriously, this sort of thing is boring and ageist

stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism

so what if our parents didn't smoke or drink when they were pregnant?
so what if we didn't eat mud pies?
so what if we didn't drink from garden hoses?
so what if we used more computers and electronics?

it seems like the original author of this article seems to think that everybody born after 69 are somehow worse

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

the future will be better, and our generation will produce better best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors!

[MH]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

seriously, this sort of thing is boring and ageist

stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism

Its typical generation war.
I think today's youth is much smarter than in 60 or 70s.
The old guys have problem keeping up so they complain.

Today children demand more know more but i don't think they are more greedy nasty and so on.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said

Oh, you are saying you don't fall into this time span, because you were born on Friday the 13th in February, 1918

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism

*wiping away a tear from my eye*
*sniff* thank you for calling all people born after '69 young people!

[Blood_splat]

It's funny because those parents today born in the 60's and 70's are now helicopter parents.

[STEED]

I made the list, 1968.

[CCIP]

Actually for all the concerns of "ageism", I do take a lot of these concerns to heart and think there's a bit of truth to them - and that's coming from someone who's supposed to be of a totally different generation. As a college teacher, I get to work with exactly the demographic this is written "against", and you know what, there really is a big loss of maturity and life experience among them. I'm not the only one to say it either - many, many other people I work with agree with me. There's been a dramatic downtrend in the average 'quality' of students entering college over the past 20 years or so. You can't generalize completely, of course, and there's lots of brilliant, mature, life-savvy kids out there these days - but there is a lot that points to the fact that today's middle-class youth culture is sheltered, conventional, and over-entertained. And that's even reflected in things like music tastes, interests, political involvement, hobbies... There's a real trend today away from actual counter-culture, and towards just buying the cultural types you're sold. As a favourite musician of mine said, this is probably the first generation since the 1950s where the kids are more conventional than their parents.

Again, plenty of exceptions to that, but by and large I do find it sadly true.

This post makes me feel inadequete (Sp) since I was born in 1991. Lol Although, I did get a good whooping whenever I smarted off or got into trouble so that one pretty much kept me straightened out

Originally Posted by joea

I ç%&ç# hate these stereotypical "everything was simpler in the good old days" emails. Just look, we have at least two guys here (Lord_magerius and CCIP) who fall outside the demographic and say the message applies to them. The email applies to me-albeit partly. Some of it is contradictory, claiming the last 50 years and the generation of kids raised like that saw an explosion of innovation and change part of which is stuff like computers, playstation and the internet that are decried. My Mom never smoked btw-she did drink wine as far as I know though.

The stuff about

"You had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when You rode Your bikes, You had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, You would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags."

Utter tripe-I am sure lots of kids had accidents and died or were severely injured at the time-yet the letter puts them at the same level as harmless or really healthy stuff like playing outside, making mud pies which are fun things kids today miss out on.

My neice for example has a helmet, my sis was super obsessive about what she ate and drank when she was pregnant, my neice plays volleyball, dances ballet, loves Broadway musicals of the 40s and 50s and actually likes books. Her exposure to the internet and TV is limited and supervised, and the only computer game she plays regularly is "Cut the Rope" on my sister's iPad.

But that seems to be the exception now-a-days, I can even tell you from being in Highschool last year that the creativitey of alot of these kids has gone down. I know this because in the Highschool I attended (A 5A school with 2000+ Kids) there were ALOT who just didn't give two ----s about what they were doing and would rather go out and get drunk every night than do homework and prepare for their future (Personally I couldn't stand this, people never wanted to apply themselves). We had a few who were smart (because they applied themselves) , were outside all the time, good at sports, inventive and etc. But thats all on how the parents raised them I think.


I mean don't get me wrong I don't like being stereotyped either, but you can't help it when they're true, now-a-days kids threaten to call the police when mommy and daddy discipline them, throw tantrums when they wont get their way, have no motivation to do anything, and want nothing but a free ride. It brings one of my friends adopted brothers to mind, his mother adopted him because her son was friends with him (Courts ordered it because his foster parents were nuts) and even though she has handed him a silver platter (Takes him to school every day, drives him 30 miles 1 way at least 3 times a week JUST so he can go see his girlfriend, basically does whatever he wants. He's a slob and won't ever clean up after himself and rarely ever does any chores he's assigned) when she says no, then she becomes a horrible mother, he throws a temper tantrum starts screaming telling her how much of a bitch she is and how she treats him like ----. Then proceeds to storm off to his room slam the door and give her the silent treatment. He's in alternative school because he wouldn't have graduated on time at the rate he was going (Coming home right after school sleeping for 5 hours, waking up and staying up until two then going to school, not doing any homework because he didn't feel like it and sleeping in school). Sounds like he's 5 right? No, he's 17.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

I made the list, 1968.

I wish I didn't

[longam]

He forgot watching the moon missions with Walter. A big part of the times back then.

I don't really care for the rest about how things are now, I see some really creative and ingenious young people starting life.

[Chad]

I'm not taking one side or the other,

but the people who experienced these situations are the ones who are imposing these rules and regulations for kids now a days. The kids didn't make the law that they can't ride in the back of a pickup truck, or that they have to wear a seat belt.

Someone, probably born between 1920-1969 made these examples and enforced them.