[REL] Open Horizons II (old thread) - Page 10

TheDarkWraith · 05-13-11, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

Exactly. increasing the intensity of the Alpha channel is what needs done.

Edit: when it comes to shadow maps, you can actually remove the alpha channel all together, the image has to be 100% opaque anyway. Alpha channels are only used for transparency, which is not needed here.

2nd Edit: I also filled in where there was no color at all.

I'll send you the NMFMPC ship. I can't tell that much of a difference with the whited out alpha channel. Some strange things appear also when sun is glancing off side of the ship now

SteelViking · 05-13-11, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'll send you the NMFMPC ship. I can't tell that much of a difference with the whited out alpha channel. Some strange things appear also when sun is glancing off side of the ship now

Okay, I will take a look. I checked in game several times with the ship that comes with the Campaign mod, and I didn't see anything weird happen.

TheDarkWraith · 05-13-11, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

Okay, I will take a look. I checked in game several times with the ship that comes with the Campaign mod, and I didn't see anything weird happen.

In what I sent you load the single mission and change the time of day hour to 17. Then start mission. Place camera near side of ship almost parallel with the side so you can see the sunlight reflecting off the side. You'll see what I'm talking about.

SteelViking · 05-13-11, 03:59 PM

Without even firing the game up, I am going to guess it looks like the surface of the ship looks like glass........That is because the base texture is 100%, that is not right. Almost all base textures in the game are transparent. Let me take a look in game to see if this is the case.

Edit: It looks like that is exactly what we are dealing with, let me play around with the texture to see if I can get it to work right, will PM you what I do.

SteelViking · 05-13-11, 04:32 PM

Hmmmm, I am also seeing some weird behavior from the occular occlusion map. This may actually be what you are referring to. Give me some time to look at that as well.

Trevally. · 05-13-11, 04:35 PM

Update:

Reworked campaign "Western Approaches"
No more find and sink 2 Cruisers if you don't want too

stoianm · 05-13-11, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Update:

Reworked campaign "Western Approaches"
No more find and sink 2 Cruisers if you don't want too

nice

SteelViking · 05-13-11, 06:18 PM

Hey, TDW, how is the new set of textures looking for you?

TheDarkWraith · 05-13-11, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

Hey, TDW, how is the new set of textures looking for you?

Sorry, haven't looked yet

. Too busy adding damage smoke to every compartment on the sub

I'll look at it now

SteelViking · 05-13-11, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Sorry, haven't looked yet

. Too busy adding damage smoke to every compartment on the sub

I'll look at it now

Hey, you take your time with that, I have been waiting for that for a long time.

SteelViking · 05-14-11, 09:14 AM

@Zedi, the shadow map itself has rust on it! Let me whip up a map without the rust and see if that solves the mystery of the unwanted rust.

Zedi · 05-14-11, 09:30 AM

Thanks you so much for this SteelViking. If you can do these improvements on all units, then finally these ships will fit the sh5 fleet.
Who knows.. maybe one day you guys can find a way to add shadows and the transparency of the ship hull underwater so there will be absolutely no difference between any ship.

TheDarkWraith · 05-14-11, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zedi

Who knows.. maybe one day you guys can find a way to add shadows and the transparency of the ship hull underwater so there will be absolutely no difference between any ship.

When a GR2 unit is rendered the game engine adds the verticies of the unit that are underwater to a depth map. This depth map is then used in the water pixel shader to determine whether that pixel is deep water color or the color of the ship that is underwater (it is linearly interpolated). No such thing exists for DAT rendered units. That is why you can't 'see' them underwater from above water. I made a revised water pixel shader that made them show but it's not perfect. It will take modifying the sh5.exe to do it correctly.

Rongel · 05-14-11, 10:08 AM

Thanks for the files Steelviking! I made another test, quick test, but I can't see much difference...

Am I missing something? Maybe some screenshots? The one big thing that separates these ships form SH 5 ships, is the light/dark side. SH5 has really big contrast, but here it's almost the same... What do you think TDW, you have been looking at these ships some time too?

Well I'll get back on this soon, have to go now. But great work everyone

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TheDarkWraith · 05-14-11, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rongel

Thanks for the files Steelviking! I made another test, quick test, but I can't see much difference...

Am I missing something? Maybe some screenshots? The one big thing that separates these ships form SH 5 ships, is the light/dark side. SH5 has really big contrast, but here it's almost the same... What do you think TDW, you have been looking at these ships some time too?

Well I'll get back on this soon, have to go now. But great work everyone

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Yes I have same problem. Can't tell much of a difference at all

05-13-11, 03:59 PM	#139
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Without even firing the game up, I am going to guess it looks like the surface of the ship looks like glass........That is because the base texture is 100%, that is not right. Almost all base textures in the game are transparent. Let me take a look in game to see if this is the case. Edit: It looks like that is exactly what we are dealing with, let me play around with the texture to see if I can get it to work right, will PM you what I do. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who! Last edited by SteelViking; 05-13-11 at 04:11 PM.

05-13-11, 04:32 PM	#140
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Hmmmm, I am also seeing some weird behavior from the occular occlusion map. This may actually be what you are referring to. Give me some time to look at that as well. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

05-13-11, 04:35 PM	#141
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Update: Reworked campaign "Western Approaches" No more find and sink 2 Cruisers if you don't want too __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

05-13-11, 06:18 PM	#143
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	Hey, TDW, how is the new set of textures looking for you? __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

05-14-11, 09:14 AM	#146
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	@Zedi, the shadow map itself has rust on it! Let me whip up a map without the rust and see if that solves the mystery of the unwanted rust. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

05-14-11, 09:30 AM	#147
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Thanks you so much for this SteelViking. If you can do these improvements on all units, then finally these ships will fit the sh5 fleet. Who knows.. maybe one day you guys can find a way to add shadows and the transparency of the ship hull underwater so there will be absolutely no difference between any ship.

05-14-11, 10:08 AM	#149
Rongel Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 859 Downloads: 174 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the files Steelviking! I made another test, quick test, but I can't see much difference... Am I missing something? Maybe some screenshots? The one big thing that separates these ships form SH 5 ships, is the light/dark side. SH5 has really big contrast, but here it's almost the same... What do you think TDW, you have been looking at these ships some time too? Well I'll get back on this soon, have to go now. But great work everyone .