Effective use of the Mk27 Cutie

[Stealhead]

The gun fire depends on what version you are playing in stock and TMO it wont matter so much thanks to type of damage model so shot until it sinks in Real Fleet Boat you/d want to target areas that where already flooding or again shot until it sinks I aim for the water line myself.

Though I only use the deck gun on lone ships that need a coup de grace to finish them off so I don't usually fire but a maybe 10 shells at the most talking larger torpedo worthy ships here that have already suffered hits from fish.

Some of you guys are confusing what can happen in real life with what can happen in the game they are not the same.Unless you have a mod that simulates fire damage fires are nothing but eye candy in game just like the holes form torpedo and shell hits and if the something blows up or not it is all eye candy.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Some of you guys are confusing what can happen in real life with what can happen in the game they are not the same.Unless you have a mod that simulates fire damage fires are nothing but eye candy in game just like the holes form torpedo and shell hits and if the something blows up or not it is all eye candy.

So real fleet boat is the one, regarding actual damages?

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Unless you have a mod that simulates fire damage...

Ship Fire Damage Mod

[Stealhead]

That mod only does ship fires the mod that Real Fleet Boat uses simulates the entire ships systems and compartments and is there fore the most accurate.

Based on reading the thread for the fire mod some say it seems to little others say it does alot that seems very inconsistent to which is why I passed on it a few weeks back.

So to Dan yes RFB is the best for damages(without adding anything to it seeing as it part of the RFB files)... the fire mod is questionable realism wise just read the thread on it people are getting different results I am not saying that it is bad just that it may not be very accurate or consistent it is also a port of an SH5 mod so keep that in mind.There are different things effecting damage and explosions so folks with tons of mods who knows what will happen this is why I only use a handful of mods keep it simple and consistent.With lots of mods you cant know for sure in many cases if they will have strange effect when combined with another mod.

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

the fire mod is questionable realism wise just read the thread on it people are getting different results I am not saying that it is bad just that it may not be very accurate or consistent it is also a port of an SH5 mod so keep that in mind.There are different things effecting damage and explosions so folks with tons of mods who knows what will happen this is why I only use a handful of mods keep it simple and consistent.With lots of mods you cant know for sure in many cases if they will have strange effect when combined with another mod.

Thanks man, i'll be sure to check it out. From what i've been reading, this mod does not conflict with the most popular supermods.

An regarding the 'different reasults' which motivated my quote above, it should be pointed out that, at the end of the day, what would happen in real life is that there were no rule of thumb in most cases... some ships would take an unbeleivable ammount of hits and not sink, whereas others would blow apart with an aparently harmless hit... so maybe the mod comes closer to real life that it would appear.

[Stealhead]

Thats fine you can use any mod you want really I was just saying that not all of them are realistic that mod was made for those who really wanted to fire do damage that's all I can use my imagination and get the same result like how some guys will dive during a storm in game to let their crew rest that is not in the game they are just role playing so to speak.

[Daniel Prates]

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

An regarding the 'different reasults' which motivated my quote above, it should be pointed out that, at the end of the day, what would happen in real life is that there were no rule of thumb in most cases...

USS Yorktown - long live the ship that sank once for the Americans, and twice for the Japanese

Does anybody know about when they found out about having NOT sank two carriers, only one?

[magic452]

I would guess about the time planes from the second one sank their last carrier.

Magic

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Anthony W.

USS Yorktown - long live the ship that sank once for the Americans, and twice for the Japanese

Does anybody know about when they found out about having NOT sank two carriers, only one?

Frankly, they may have never figured it out. If they did, it probably wasn't ever officially admitted. Japanese intelligence and recon became so muddled during the Battle of Midway that as night fell with the last Japanese carrier out of action, Nagumo was convinced he was still facing four intact US carriers. Two of the Yorktown class, and two of an unidentified class. It was at that point that Yamamoto with his surface forces too far from the scene of the battle and no fleet carriers left, decided to throw in the towel and cancel the invasion of Midway.

Afterwards, Japan claimed officially to it's people, that they won a victory sinking two US carriers, while losing only one. Incredibly, Tojo wasn't told of the defeat until a month after the battle. Even in the dark days of 1944, when anyone could see the war was lost, Japan's military never had the moral fortitude to revise it's inflated claims of enemy ships sunk, or to admit that it had lost a single battle to date.

[Stealhead]

The Japanese where not the only ones that mistook sinkings.We at first in the Coral Sea thought that we had sunk a full size carrier which was not the case.This is the nature of the fog of war no nation during war is willing to let its capacity be known so you have to rely on what you intel you have and what see or think you see sometimes pilots can get over excited in the heat of battle and think they attacked something other than what they in fact did or over estimate the damage they did.Hell a Japanese pilot got confused during the Coral Sea battle and attempted to land on the Yorktown!! the Yorktown's crew also thought it was a friendly plane that was about to land until it very close I assume that pilot got rather surprised when he saw AA fire come up at him.

We got very lucky at Midway to be honest the Japanese had damaged the Yorktown pretty well at Coral Sea and rightly expected it to be out of action for some time they underestimated our need for aircraft carriers.It turns out that we did major repairs on her in a short time(24 hours I think) not enough to be like new but enough to operate at the battle of Midway.Many people in hindsight forget that a wars out come is unknown until it actually happens.WE defeated the Japanese Navy soundly in WWII but had done very little to the majority of its ground forces and the Japanese showed at Iwo Jima and Okinawa that each battle was going to be more and more costly for the US so it is good that the war ended without having to invade the main Japanese islands the outcome may have been different.(it might not have been an unconditional surrender)

The Battle of Leyte Gulf is another battle that we got lucky with as well maybe even more so than at Midway.

Few people know that the US government did not make public the full extent of the damage incurred during Pearl Harbor because they where concerned that the truth would cause panic.During WWII few nations where fully truthful about certain events because of the need to maintain public support.This is why sinking reports of US subs where not publicly known for several months mainly because enemy agents could have fond this data useful if it was known to be very fresh which is another reason for media control.