When honesty isn't the best policy - Page 2

magic452 · 05-11-11, 05:30 PM

There is a 50% chance that the money was some sort of drug deal.

Just watch and see how much money gets turned in in the future. Not much I'll bet. So what ever the city though they would make off this deal ain't gonna happen. Same kind of thing when you change taxes, people change their behavior.

Magic

gimpy117 · 05-11-11, 05:41 PM

yay Texas! they're so backward their like a car stuck in reverse!

GoldenRivet · 05-11-11, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

yay Texas! they're so backward their like a car stuck in reverse!

Please.

your basing your opinion of an entire state and its people on one news piece - and you clearly didnt pay any attention to how the news story ended

every year i meet people who moved here from - say - Wisconsin who expected to find this...

and instead are quite surprised at what they actually find here.

FIREWALL · 05-11-11, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Please.

your basing your opinion of an entire state and its people on one news piece - and you clearly didnt pay any attention to how the news story ended

every year i meet people who moved here from - say - Wisconsin who expected to find this...

and instead are quite surprised at what they actually find here.

And some from Denver. Home of the BRONCOS...

August · 05-11-11, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm in complete agreement with this. I'd go out of my way to return a wallet or a purse to its rightful owner. But random cash in unmarked envelopes....heck yeah, that's MINE. Especially seeing what happens when someone tries to be honest.

I agree as well. This is a stupid and despicable thing for the City of Dallas to do. We should all make sure that they get as much negative press from this as possible.

But as far as keeping found cash. People do loose it from time to time. I know you guys are thinking lost drug dealer money, but what if it was someone like Uncle Billy (from It's a Wonderful Life)? This is why we need to give people reasons to turn in found cash instead of reasons not to.

Y'know there are states, mine included, who already appropriate the funds from inactive bank accounts. Put some money in an interest bearing account. Stay out of contact with the bank for three years and they're required to turn it over to the state. What Dallas is doing is just the next step on the same slippery slope.

razark · 05-11-11, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

however, the problem here is that Dallas is one such place that DID have the law when she found the money

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

My limited understanding of the law and what is right and wrong would say that this case should have been handled under laws in force at the time this all started.

I didn't see in the story when the policy/law was changed. Did I miss it?

(Not saying what the city did was right, just trying to get a full understanding.)

mookiemookie · 05-11-11, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

yay Texas! they're so backward their like a car stuck in reverse!

Not all of Texas is what you think it is. You can't generalize a state that has more land area than the entire country of Ukraine.

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Originally Posted by August

Y'know there are states, mine included, who already appropriate the funds from inactive bank accounts. Put some money in an interest bearing account. Stay out of contact with the bank for three years and they're required to turn it over to the state. What Dallas is doing is just the next step on the same slippery slope.

Heh, I'll give you the standard spiel I used to give people when I worked at a major bank here in Texas. That process you describe is called escheatment and it's a concept that goes way, way back to the Magna Carta days. It's set in place so that there's no ownerless property. If you leave money in an account or safe deposit box with no contact for three years, the bank is required to turn it over to the state. However, it doesn't become property of the state. The owner can come back years later and get the money back. It's a bunch of filling out forms and whatnot, but it's not like they're stealing from you.

August · 05-11-11, 06:52 PM

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The owner can come back years later and get the money back. It's a bunch of filling out forms and whatnot, but it's not like they're stealing from you.

Interesting but what about the interest? I might want to leave a nest egg for my great great grandson...

Ducimus · 05-11-11, 08:27 PM

I will unashamedly admit that if i found 2 grand in an envelope on the ground, the only thing i'll be doing is making sure all the serial numbers are unique, and then deposit that money straight into my savings account.

Betonov · 05-12-11, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Interesting but what about the interest? I might want to leave a nest egg for my great great grandson...

deposit one cent every 2 years and 11 months

Castout · 05-12-11, 05:14 AM

Under new policy my ass is new too

That student should get the money. Good faith and good will should be rewarded.

New city policy is teaching its citizens to steal any unclaimed money. A stupid policy imo.

Like it or not 5-10% of people will never respect the law and order and authority.

40-45% will commit crime given opportunity to get away and temptation great enough.

30-35% will do what is right in the hope of social rewards.

20% or less will do what is right under any circumstances.

So Dallas new city policy is telling all but those 20% or less people to steal when you can get away.

05-11-11, 05:30 PM	#16
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	There is a 50% chance that the money was some sort of drug deal. Just watch and see how much money gets turned in in the future. Not much I'll bet. So what ever the city though they would make off this deal ain't gonna happen. Same kind of thing when you change taxes, people change their behavior. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	yay Texas! they're so backward their like a car stuck in reverse! __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Under new policy my ass is new too That student should get the money. Good faith and good will should be rewarded. New city policy is teaching its citizens to steal any unclaimed money. A stupid policy imo. Like it or not 5-10% of people will never respect the law and order and authority. 40-45% will commit crime given opportunity to get away and temptation great enough. 30-35% will do what is right in the hope of social rewards. 20% or less will do what is right under any circumstances. So Dallas new city policy is telling all but those 20% or less people to steal when you can get away. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

05-11-11, 08:27 PM	#24
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I will unashamedly admit that if i found 2 grand in an envelope on the ground, the only thing i'll be doing is making sure all the serial numbers are unique, and then deposit that money straight into my savings account.