U864

Fish In The Water · 05-08-11, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The first and only time during WWII that a sub was destroyed by another sub whilst both were submerged.

http://uboat.net/boats/u864.htm

Makes it all the more remarkable...

BTW, just read the following on the linked page:

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This is the only known incident in all of naval warfare in which one submarine sinks another while both are submerged.

Just wondering if it's WWII or 'all of naval warfare?'

Captain Nemo · 05-09-11, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water

Just wondering if it's WWII or 'all of naval warfare?'

I would guess all of naval warfare. Although with modern torpedoes the sinking of other submerged submarines is an easier task, I don't think it has actually been put to the test in real combat. If I'm not mistaken, the only time a nuclear submarine has fired it's torpedoes in anger was during the Falklands war back in 1982 when a British sub sunk the Belgrano. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm mistaken.

Nemo

Jimbuna · 05-09-11, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

I would guess all of naval warfare. Although with modern torpedoes the sinking of other submerged submarines is an easier task, I don't think it has actually been put to the test in real combat. If I'm not mistaken, the only time a nuclear submarine has fired it's torpedoes in anger was during the Falklands war back in 1982 when a British sub sunk the Belgrano. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm mistaken.

Nemo

If I was a betting man I'd say your right but if it has happened since nobody is releasing any info about it

05-09-11, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

If I was a betting man I'd say your right but if it has happened since nobody is releasing any info about it

The Kursk comes to mind, and I'll say no more.

Captain Nemo · 05-10-11, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

The Kursk comes to mind, and I'll say no more.

I think the evidence suggests that the sinking of the Kursk was caused by an internal explosion. Wasn't she carrying torpedoes that were powered by hydrogen peroxide?

Nemo

Osmium Steele · 05-11-11, 08:56 AM

I personally believe the Kursk was testing the latest version of the Shkval.

It is my belief that the engine lit while still in the tube, the subsequent heat detonating the warhead, quickly followed by the other warheads in the torpedo room. Hence, the double explosion reported by the lurking nato subs and sosus data, although the shallow waters could also account for hearing a double detonation. Acoustics are weird that way.

Personally, I was moved to tears when the first reports hit the news.

The Soviets may have been my adversary, but they were never my enemy, and all submariners share a common enemy, the sea.

Jimbuna · 05-11-11, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

The Kursk comes to mind, and I'll say no more.

I honestly don't think she was destroyed by an attack from a submerged adversary

Fish In The Water · 05-12-11, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I honestly don't think she was destroyed by an attack from a submerged adversary

Makes for a good conspiracy theory though...

05-12-11, 05:18 AM

Here's an interesting link on the topic:

Additional information never hurts, nor does have to be "swallowed whole". But doesn't that statement hold true for any source of information?

05-11-11, 08:56 AM	#6
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I personally believe the Kursk was testing the latest version of the Shkval. It is my belief that the engine lit while still in the tube, the subsequent heat detonating the warhead, quickly followed by the other warheads in the torpedo room. Hence, the double explosion reported by the lurking nato subs and sosus data, although the shallow waters could also account for hearing a double detonation. Acoustics are weird that way. Personally, I was moved to tears when the first reports hit the news. The Soviets may have been my adversary, but they were never my enemy, and all submariners share a common enemy, the sea.

05-12-11, 05:18 AM	#9
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Here's an interesting link on the topic: Additional information never hurts, nor does have to be "swallowed whole". But doesn't that statement hold true for any source of information?