Where do i stand politicaly.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Don't take my word for it, though.

No worries, I don't.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Centrist?

Try this:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

I did, found some of the questions a bit to much in the grey area.

[Armistead]

I use to be a hook, line and sinker GOP member, although I voted for a few state and local Dems.

Our government reminds me of a past employee I once had. Him and his wife fought like hell over everything, neither giving. They were divorcing and fighting over their few goods and trailer home. She wanted half. He actually got drunk, took a chainsaw and cut the thing in half, even caught on fire. In the end fighting over having to have it their way, nothing was left...That's what government has done, except were the ones with nothing left.

As I said elsewhere, I don't fit in with either party. Government as is has become so partisan, I don't ever see them doing anything. Both groups have some decent ideas on some things, but to admit the other side has ideas means they may get credit and neither side wants the other to have any credit, because it equals political points..

I'm much more liberal as I've gotten older, simply, I don't feel I have to force or judge people to live by my morals.

The fact is this next election will only show how bad and partisan things are.

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, you're from Tennessee.

And your from Texas ^_^ just what are ya trying to imply here (;

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Seth, sounds like you're an independant, which is where I think most people would fall in some shape or another if they exercised free thought. Instead, most people tend to let the parties think FOR them on most everything so long as that party agrees with their opinion on one or two things.

I fancy myself an independant although I no doubt lean conservative on most issues. Quite frankly most social issues I couldn't care less about. Economics and foreign policy are my key issues, and at times I have supported both parties in approaches and reforms. It can be draining at times because it's simple to find yourself in the middle of both sides in an argument, fighting off rhetoric and talking points seemingly without an ally in the world.

The bottom line my friend? I figure that, rather than voting a spectrum it is most wise to vote based upon the few things that are most important to you, AT THAT TIME, and to be sure to revisit the issues and their importance regularly. For instance, I tend to (loosely) side with many environmental causes which are a Democrat issue. Yet, it's hard to see the US being in any position to accomplish anything environmentally with a broken economy, and I'm convinced the Democrats are on a path to fiscal ruin.

JFK said it best with "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." I think these are probably some of the most inspired words any US politician has ever uttered. I take that to mean that, in the very least, we should all strive to understand our nation's needs at any given time and attempt to put in power those most suited to serve those needs, understanding that needs will change and different people will be required. To be able to honestly do so means that one must never be led into blind ideological slavery to any political party or special interest.

Read August's signature once - while I believe that "never" is a strong word, I agree with it in principle.

I like the way you think, you seem to be very analytic of whats going on Sadly, im thinking that thier isnt a politician that i believe deserves to be voted into office.. THAT is why, im announcing my candidacy to run..

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Seth8530

And your from Texas ^_^ just what are ya trying to imply here (;

Most of the original Texicans were from Tennessee.

[August]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Most of the original Texicans were from Tennessee.

Is Texican an amalgamation of Tennessean and Mexican?

[Skybird]

Where do i stand politicaly

Stand on side of the opinions that you have formed in the best way you can. What you get labelled as by others, is unimportant. Stamps they try to put on you, are unimportant. Common habits, traditions and hear-say and claims are unimportant. Important is that you are clear with your own conscience and your own intellectual analysis.

You will make yourself more enmies than friends with this, and you fit only between all chairs. But as they say: a man's fame is measured by the number of his enemies.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You will make yourself more enmies than friends with this. But as they say: a man's fame is measured by the number of his enemies.

To augment this phrase with a Churchill quote: You have enemies, good, that means you've stood up for something in your life.

You'll have 2 types of enemies:
The ones that don't agree with you, but formed their opinions by themselves. But those kind of enemies are actually nice to have around (if they can make a civil conversation, aka not stuborn) as they will make a conversation quite interesting.
And the ones that don't agree with you and their opinion was made by someone else aka the sheep (baaaaaaaa). They will be stuborn, they will be uncivilized and they will be offended if proven wrong. And they come in mass like a mongolian horde. Except the mongolians were civilized compared to these guys.

[Seth8530]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Most of the original Texicans were from Tennessee.

Cool, guess ya learn something new everyday!

Originally Posted by Skybird

Stand on side of the opinions that you have formed in the best way you can. What you get labelled as by others, is unimportant. Stamps they try to put on you, are unimportant. Common habits, traditions and hear-say and claims are unimportant. Important is that you are clear with your own conscience and your own intellectual analysis.

You will make yourself more enmies than friends with this, and you fit only between all chairs. But as they say: a man's fame is measured by the number of his enemies.

oora for being controversial! Something you seem to excell at (; I like what your saying.

Originally Posted by Betonov

To augment this phrase with a Churchill quote: You have enemies, good, that means you've stood up for something in your life.

You'll have 2 types of enemies:
The ones that don't agree with you, but formed their opinions by themselves. But those kind of enemies are actually nice to have around (if they can make a civil conversation, aka not stuborn) as they will make a conversation quite interesting.
And the ones that don't agree with you and their opinion was made by someone else aka the sheep (baaaaaaaa). They will be stuborn, they will be uncivilized and they will be offended if proven wrong. And they come in mass like a mongolian horde. Except the mongolians were civilized compared to these guys.

Nice quote, tells alot about Mr. Churchill.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, you're from Tennessee.

Well, it could be worse. You could be from arkansas.

[vienna]

And the ones that don't agree with you and their opinion was made by someone else aka the sheep (baaaaaaaa). They will be stuborn, they will be uncivilized and they will be offended if proven wrong. And they come in mass like a mongolian horde. Except the mongolians were civilized compared to these guys.

aka Rush Limbaugh's 'Ditto Heads'?

[August]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Well, it could be worse. You could be from arkansas.

Now there's an odd state name. How does Arkansas and Kansas get to be pronounced so differently?

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by August

Now there's an odd state name. How does Arkansas and Kansas get to be pronounced so differently?

When the first maps of the territory were drawn up, the areas names was spelled in a variety of ways. In Marquette and Joliet's "Journal of 1673", the Indian name is spelled AKANSEA. In LaSalle's map a few years later, it's spelled ACANSA. A map based on the journey of La Harpe in 1718-1722 refers to the river as the ARKANSAS and to the Indians as LES AKANSAS. In about 1811, Captain Zebulon Pike, a noted explorer, spelled it ARKANSAW.

During the early days of statehood, Arkansas' two U.S. Senators were divided on the spelling and pronunciation. One was always introduced as the senator from "ARkanSAW" and the other as the senator from "Ar-KANSAS." In 1881, the state's General Assembly passed a resolution declaring that the state's name should be spelled "Arkansas" but pronounced "Arkansaw."

Personally, I blame the Civil War...or Bill Clinton.