Torpedoes going under ship

[WernherVonTrapp]

I've had that happen in the stock version and in RFB quite some time ago and usually with the same ship. Is the ship's screws out of the water? That's usually the case and the last time I had this happen, it was because I had another add-on installed that was conflicting with the Mod. Sometimes it can happen if you don't clean out your saved games before starting a new career too. There also might be other reasons but that's what caused it when it happened to me. I haven't experienced that in TMO yet.
The only way around it in my case, was to resort to the deck gun.

[CapnScurvy]

There's a couple of places that set the draught in the game for a particular ship. I'm not at my regular computer, so I'm unable to check the Zinbu's .sim file found in its Data/Sea folder of TMO. The culprit is probably found in this file. It can be opened with skwasjer's Silent 3ditor.

The Recognition Manual "draught" entry comes from the Data/Sea/ .cfg file. This entry lists in meters the draught of each target ship. It has nothing to do with the actual mechanics of the draught though, I've set this figure to 100 meters and no change comes from it (except to change the RM figure). This file can be opened with Windows Notepad.

It's not surprising there can be an error found in the .sim file. Lots of entries to trip you up.

One note about the Data/Sea/ .cfg file; not all entries are just for listing a measurement in the Recognition Manual.

For instance the "Mast=" figure lists in meters the Mast Height found in the RM. It also is the figure used to calculate the math equation for the Stadimeter manual targeting. Unlike the "Draft=" parameter, the "Mast=" entry actually does more than simply state a measurement. An example of an error found in TMO 2.0 is the Mast=20 figure found in the Hiyru CV's Recognition Manual page. This file entry goes back to the first few months of SH4 being released. I think the stock mast height was changed to 31 meters around patch 1.3 or 1.4. For TMO its a simple error of plugging in an old file, for a later changed one. As it is, to have a correct manual targeting mast height for the Hiyru the figure needs to read 37 something meters. A huge difference from 20 meters in height for TMO (or 31 meters for the stock game.).

[Daniel Prates]

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Is the ship's screws out of the water?

That could very well be it, in rough seas it is usual for the ship's stern or bow to be coming inside and outside the water level. Still, magnetic influence should not be enough to detonate the torpedo?

[tmdgm]

I did forget to mention it was NOT in rough seas. Seas were very very calm. Sorry, meant to mention that last night cuz that would've been my first thought as well.

I'll have to play again tonight and see if the screws are out of the water, but I'm pretty sure this is a bug, maybe something wrong with the draft input as per Capn scurvy. None of the torpedoes came back as duds. Every single torpedo went under the ship, 6 of em. I went back and replayed the saved game file (granted with the same 6 torpedoes) and all 6 went under the ship again. Maybe next time i'll turn around and try my aft torps just to be sure, but i'm bettin they go under as well.

I guess you can say this was possible in real life. But I'm guessing this should not be possible in the game (not 6 of em running at min depth in calm seas anyway) unless there is a bug/bad data.

Also, i'm not using any other mods. Using tmo 2.0 with RSRD.

I will admit, i do have old saved games i could delete.

CapnScruvy, where can i find this editor to open the .sim file? i'm just surprised noone else noticed this. maybe noone ran into the dreaded hovering zinbu maru

[Anthony W.]

I get that A LOT when I'm firing at convoy escorts.