Illegal to talk to a Police Officer? - Page 5

Ducimus · 05-04-11, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Oh, right, like the SoCal desert grows 'em exclusively.

I didnt say Special People didn't exist elsewhere, i just said we have a lot of em here. Hell, this place is the birth cradle for a lot of stupid crap in our society.

krashkart · 05-04-11, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I'll bet that statement can be applied to the majority of threads like this on the internet. People don't care what went on before hand, particularly if it would justify any actions the cop took. All they want is the slightest reason to be able shake their fist in the air and yell fight the power. Especially on the internet. Its like a fad. They want to be able to tell cops how to do their jobs, without walking even a 50 yards in their shoes, let alone a mile. Far too many people think their special, and cops are an object of hatred because they're the ones who remind folks they aren't.

And in california, there are A LOT of special people. They must be special, because the way they act, apparently the rules don't apply to them.

How many of those people would have the guts to face that responsibility? My guess would be "zero".

Ducimus · 05-04-11, 04:17 PM

What a lot of people don't realize, (and i didn't either tell i researched it by hanging out on police forums for awhile) is that cops catch hell from their superiors AND the general public. It really depends on the PD and the local politics. Some areas are worse then others. The thing you have to realize is sh _ _ always rolls downhill.

If the local mayor or governer is trying to look good for whatever reason, he'll strong arm the PD into getting him some decent crime reduction statistics. Same thing if the captain of the local PD is bucking for a promotion. The officers are expected to beat the bushes and produce results! (emphasis intentional) If they don't, they're out on their asses. (remember, sh _ _ rolls downhill. If a cop is trying to make a quota, its because he's under the hammer from somewhere on high thats trying to look good. )

So add on a fire breathing dragon bearing down on your neck, on top of the strain already there by the general public and the fact that any one traffic stop, could be the one that has a bullet with your name on it, and it's amazing how well they really are doing given the amount of stress involved.

gimpy117 · 05-04-11, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

so? still no reason to yell at someone

Ducimus · 05-04-11, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

so? still no reason to yell at someone

" Oh my god George, look, hes yelling at someone!"

You know, there are far worse things in the world, then having someone yell at you. Hell, being yelled at doesn't even register in my book. Growing up i was yelled at all the time by my father. (According to him i was a "worthless little s _ _ t" . In hindsight, i probably was. ) After that, i was a cadet in an ROTC program throughout high school, and was yelled at in the same manner R. Lee Ermey is famous for. Then i went to basic and the real military, and got yelled at some more.....

If you can't handle being yelled at, you've definitely got to toughen up a wee bit.

05-04-11, 05:49 PM

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so? still no reason to yell at someone

How do you know there was no reason?

AngusJS · 05-04-11, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yet you don't know what happened other than what was filmed on the officers return to the car.
It is very easy to get someone well wound up and then trigger them over something apparently little once you get the situation right.

Is he a professional? If so, why did he let himself get wound up? The arrested person was a hell of a lot more calm than he was.

This cop apparently has such a short fuse that I can't imagine what the person could have said to get him that angry, yet still not angry enough to arrest him.

Some cops want to have it both ways - they want a job with huge responsibility, yet they fall back on the "shucks, we're only human" excuse whenever they're called out on their actions.

If you can't be professional, don't be a cop.

August · 05-04-11, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

If you can't be professional, don't be a cop.

I think your idea of professional is inhuman. There is not a person in the world that hasn't displayed anger at some point.

gimpy117 · 05-04-11, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I think your idea of professional is inhuman. There is not a person in the world that hasn't displayed anger at some point.

by yelling at someone on the job?

and thats why were saying he need to be professional.

tater · 05-04-11, 10:01 PM

I've been pulled over a few times in my life, and the cops were always polite. Some were more cold/business, but none were rude or yelled. Of course I was always respectful to them to start with. I suppose it would be my right to act like an ass, but it would be stupid.

August · 05-04-11, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

by yelling at someone on the job?

Sure. If you haven't yet then just give it time, you will eventually.

gimpy117 · 05-04-11, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Sure. If you haven't yet then just give it time, you will eventually.

yes, when it happens I'm sure nobody will be surprised when they yell back...so why are you so mad the person in the car was put off by that outburst? whats with the cop loving? I like police officers, but I don't fight tooth and nail to defend them when they do wrong.

August · 05-04-11, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

yes, when it happens I'm sure nobody will be surprised when they yell back...so why are you so mad the person in the car was put off by that outburst? whats with the cop loving? I like police officers, but I don't fight tooth and nail to defend them when they do wrong.

"Fight tooth and nail"? Get over yourself...

krashkart · 05-04-11, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

I've been pulled over a few times in my life, and the cops were always polite. Some were more cold/business, but none were rude or yelled. Of course I was always respectful to them to start with. I suppose it would be my right to act like an ass, but it would be stupid.

I know the answer to this, but:

"Why would it be stupid?"

I've come close to sharing similar experiences, but the argument always remains the same: "The cops suck and <drone drone blah blah blah> *patooey*!!"

One thing I will say is this; they were there for us when we really needed them, and I will always carry that gratitude with me. "Thank you, whoever you are." ... I never did get their names.

krashkart · 05-04-11, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

yes, when it happens I'm sure nobody will be surprised when they yell back...so why are you so mad the person in the car was put off by that outburst? whats with the cop loving? I like police officers, but I don't fight tooth and nail to defend them when they do wrong.

One crucial detail that we are missing is the Full Story. There is only so much that can be gathered from a video clip.

Here's a question for you:

How does that incident affect you? I can answer that, but I won't.

05-04-11, 10:01 PM	#70
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I've been pulled over a few times in my life, and the cops were always polite. Some were more cold/business, but none were rude or yelled. Of course I was always respectful to them to start with. I suppose it would be my right to act like an ass, but it would be stupid. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

05-04-11, 04:17 PM	#63
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	What a lot of people don't realize, (and i didn't either tell i researched it by hanging out on police forums for awhile) is that cops catch hell from their superiors AND the general public. It really depends on the PD and the local politics. Some areas are worse then others. The thing you have to realize is sh _ _ always rolls downhill. If the local mayor or governer is trying to look good for whatever reason, he'll strong arm the PD into getting him some decent crime reduction statistics. Same thing if the captain of the local PD is bucking for a promotion. The officers are expected to beat the bushes and produce results! (emphasis intentional) If they don't, they're out on their asses. (remember, sh _ _ rolls downhill. If a cop is trying to make a quota, its because he's under the hammer from somewhere on high thats trying to look good. ) So add on a fire breathing dragon bearing down on your neck, on top of the strain already there by the general public and the fact that any one traffic stop, could be the one that has a bullet with your name on it, and it's amazing how well they really are doing given the amount of stress involved.