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Old 05-02-11, 03:26 PM   #181
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I dont agree with that the from of weapon ones uses varies on the situation at hand.If you are trying to destroy a large number of Taliban in an area then the JDAM is highly effective and in most cases the civilians are not anywhere near the target.

Other times the bullet to the head is best just depends on the given situation.And you can run a counterinsurgency with military and political means they are both useful if done right.

I recommend you read the book "The Accidental Guerrilla" this book is a case study on how one can use counterinsurgency effectively using multiple facets to counter AQ and jihadists.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:26 PM   #182
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True, but the team players are missing their coach and motivator. Perhaps they now realize they will be hunted down relentlessly. Sheds a different light on their endeavours.
Quite right, what you say is relevant, and give clear signals to all the network of so-called terrorist cells, and it is in this mode is extremely important to eliminate all potent "leaders" of global operations, so that they may be individually,that this was not a "one-night" stand operation,so that the knowledge held by them, the battle will always remain.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:28 PM   #183
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@ Dowly : Indeed.
Can't wait to hear about the retaliation way of Osama's troops. Taking in consideration the fact that aircraft crashing into some towers have been no more than the introduction to this war, I don't know what's going to happen next in the united states of America, but I expect Osama's troops to take some pretty drastic measures now.

Old saying.."Don't count your chicken before they hatch." Honestly, if all these things they could had done would have been done already. I suspect a lot of fist pumping and shooting of AK47 in the air. Basically what we have seen since 9/11. Other than the crackpots who are acting alone.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:30 PM   #184
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I don't suppose it's lost on anyone why they shucked his carcass overboard. For one, they can make up any story they want (True or not) about treating it according to muslim tradition. But two, it ends that messy scenario of "what to do with the body?" when on dry land. Anywhere he gets buried is going to be venerated by muslim jihadits. Best to just chuck the animal overboard and be done with it. Not that, that gives the satisfaction that could have been had, if we had buried him the way I originally described.
I don't doubt that they followed Muslim tradition. Look at the burial ceremony they held for the Soviet crewmen they found in that sub the Glomar Explorer raised back in 1975.

On the other hand good point about not giving the Jihadis a burial site to revere.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:39 PM   #185
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Old saying.."Don't count your chicken before they hatch." Honestly, if all these things they could had done would have been done already. I suspect a lot of fist pumping and shooting of AK47 in the air. Basically what we have seen since 9/11. Other than the crackpots who are acting alone.
I don't suspect anything at all, personally. I prefer not to. But, for the sake of the innocence of the united states's population, I honestly hope that's everything you'll have to handle in the future, hand on heart, Sir.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:41 PM   #186
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On the other hand good point about not giving the Jihadis a burial site to revere.
exactly.

every year there would be some pilgrimage to some massive shrine containing his martyred body.

for days on end these people would flock to the site and worship this criminal.

they were right to bury him at sea.

and they should have slaughtered two pigs and covered him in their blood.

those two pigs of course being Rosie O'donnell and Michael Moore
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Old 05-02-11, 03:43 PM   #187
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those two pigs of course being Rosie O'donnell and Michael Moore
Classy.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:45 PM   #188
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Classy.
LOL

to quote the great Rilder

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Oh Relax we just killed a mass murderer, have some fun.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:51 PM   #189
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I don't doubt that they followed Muslim tradition. Look at the burial ceremony they held for the Soviet crewmen they found in that sub the Glomar Explorer raised back in 1975.

On the other hand good point about not giving the Jihadis a burial site to revere.
Those spooks and sailors aboard the Glomar Explorer no doubt respected those Soviet submariners and fellow servicemen albeit from the other side. I doubt any of the servicemen involved in OBL's burial at sea felt anything like that.

Terrorists are nothing more than common criminal thugs and should be treated as such, they deserve no respect from proper servicemen. I wish they brought him back to stand trial in NY (including an all expense paid stay with Riker's Island genpop) followed by a lifetime in whatever deep dark hole the Federal Prison system has for such people.

Death in battle is far too good for such a man...
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Old 05-02-11, 03:52 PM   #190
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Pakistan is one of the poorest countries in the world but at least they have the courtesy to get rid of their bins on bank holiday monday.
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Old 05-02-11, 04:19 PM   #191
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Old 05-02-11, 04:35 PM   #192
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Old 05-02-11, 04:42 PM   #193
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Good one Armistead, seen it before would love to have it in a bigger pic though.
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Old 05-02-11, 04:45 PM   #194
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hmm, Osama's death actually negatively effected the stock market


is it the fear of retaliation?
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Old 05-02-11, 04:47 PM   #195
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The courier made a cell call and they found him.

They knew his name because a certain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told us.
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