The MaGui mod - Final version

[fitzcarraldo]

Originally Posted by reaper7

Not realistic: Here are the scope specs for the uboat optics

Attack Scope
Technical data:
Magnifications: 1,5x / 6x
Angular field of view: 38º (Low power) / 9º (High power)
Exit pupil: 3,5 mm
Tilt: +20º -15º

Obs (Sky) Scope
Magnifications: 1,5x / 6x
Angular field of view: 38º (Low power) / 9º (High power)
Exit pupil: 7mm
Tilt: +90º -10º

The image above has an Angular view that looks to be approx 42ºx60º.

Many thanks, Reaper!

My question- mainly - is about the design of the ocular: not square? Why this design in WAC?

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[makman94]

Originally Posted by harryt8

Makman,

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I have somehow missed the " 360-5,3=354,7 (if target is moving from Port to Starboard )" in your documentation. Your detail now provides a working solution.

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hi Harryt8,

why do i 'smell' a little irony at this part of your post ? if i am right ...really is no need for comments like this ...if i am wrong ...i guess is one of these misunderstandings that are usual when posting to forums so forgive me.

at the theme: yes you miss that part becuase it is COMMON SENSE that you will never achieve a STRAIGHT shot to a target ,which is moving from Port to Starboard, when you 'see' him at 5,3 degrees . think a little about it and you will get it for sure !
i would suggest you (if you really like the manual targeting) one day that you will have plenty of free time ...do a big coffee ,get a paper and a pencil and try to understand exactly what angle is doing what (i always draw the situations on paper).draw lines,angles..throw papers away...at first will all seem 'mountain' but slowly ,for sure, you will get it and....(trust me on this)...there is the real beauty of manual targeting hiding. once you understand the angles ....you will really start enjoying your game....and MaGui will become then a real good partner for you.
there is no point to write tutorials like...at 'this' situation...do 'that' and 'this' situation do 'that' ...at 'this'...'that'...etc...i would still would write till today ...tutorials. the main goal ....is to understand .first understand and then...load your game !
have a look at the other tutorial for 'perfect' shots which is more complicated.there are more 'angles' there that are involved and i have provide figures that will help you to undestand the specific angles and how to handle them.

bye

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked

Still "learning" Uboat procedures.What is the green TDC on and off button for???

What do you think about having the observation scope 1.5 times larger than attack and the attack scope being much darker so that night use is affected.The observation scope was nicked the night scope due to its larger head allowing more light in....the attack head was skinnier so that daytime attacks were less noticeable.

hi Wolfstriked,
green= tdc is on updating mode...meaning it is updating its data according to scope's bearing
red= manual mode ...meaning it is not upadating.ONLY at this mode(a sh3's engine limitation) you can enter data at tdc

diameters of scopes are not made randomly ! there are reasons that scopes have these diameters

bye

[makman94]

Originally Posted by fitzcarraldo

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I have many books about technology and history of U Boats, and I never see an attack periscope with that ocular view.

hi Fitzcarraldo,
you mean the circular view...right?
I would not agree with you ...Hitman and Geosub1978 had confirmed that circular view at attack scopes . the first one (Hitman) have made a very big search on u-boat scopes and the second one (Geosub) is a greek officer who is currently serving the submarines(in fact ...now that i am posting this message...maybe he is looking ,right now, through a scope).
i trust these two guys way more than any book you may find . even today ...scopes(attack and obs) are like these you see in MaGui .
the only thing in which i didn't 'follow' the german scopes are the reticles . german scopes had mils (Hitman is using these reticles at his gui) but i am fun of degrees marks at reticles and made them more like the reticles that americans scopes had

Originally Posted by fitzcarraldo

Do you know if that square periscope view is realistic? ...

no, i believe is not realistic

Originally Posted by fitzcarraldo

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My question- mainly - is about the design of the ocular: not square? Why this design in WAC?
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well ...you are asking me ...why they made it 'square' in WAC ? this is a question that you must make to the author of the 'square' scope

bye

[fitzcarraldo]

Originally Posted by makman94

hi Fitzcarraldo,
you mean the circular view...right?
I would not agree with you ...Hitman and Geosub1978 had confirmed that circular view at attack scopes . the first one (Hitman) have made a very big search on u-boat scopes and the second one (Geosub) is a greek officer who is currently serving the submarines(in fact ...now that i am posting this message...maybe he is looking ,right now, through a scope).
i trust these two guys way more than any book you may find . even today ...scopes(attack and obs) are like these you see in MaGui .
the only thing in which i didn't 'follow' the german scopes are the reticles . german scopes had mils (Hitman is using these reticles at his gui) but i am fun of degrees marks at reticles and made them more like the reticles that americans scopes had



no, i believe is not realistic



well ...you are asking me ...why they made it 'square' in WAC ? this is a question that you must make to the author of the 'square' scope

bye

Thanks, Makman. Yes, I mean the circular view. That is all I want to know. Well, I will contact the WAC authors, I´m curious about the reason for that square peri...

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[Magic1111]

Hi Folks !

Please watch these Videos and you´ll see a Periscope-view:





Best regards,
Magic

[Wolfstriked]

Originally Posted by Magic1111

Hi Folks !

Please watch these Videos and you´ll see a Periscope-view:





Best regards,
Magic

Could be they are viewing thru the observation scope.Right next to your sec video is a link to this.

[Hitman]

Well, I will contact the WAC authors, I´m curious about the reason for that square peri...

The reason for is that they are using Church's scope mod. When that mod was created many years ago, the author did it by studying the external rectangular shape of the observation periscope lense, and concluded that the view had to be also rectangular then. However, the reason for the enlonged vertical lense is actually to allow the inner circular lense to tilt up and down and see in different angles.

I have posted here many times a picture of an authentic german WW2 observation periscope manual that shows in a diagram the reticle and what you see when looking through the periscope.