Arizona sheriff hosts 'mugshot of the day' web vote

[AVGWarhawk]

Where in the Miranda warning does it state that the police can smear your picture and name all around town

Where does it say it can't? You are under arrest. Rights of the detainee are few.

comment about poisoning the jury pool is well noted.

This is why trials take a year or two before being scheduled. Jury selection process is used. The jury is hand picked by the legal entities involved. Questions are asked of each potential juror. If volatile enough the case is tried in another state.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Where does it say it can't? You are under arrest. Rights of the detainee are few.

The accused has the same rights as anyone else.

If volatile enough the case is tried in another state.

The chances of which are increased when the Sheriffs department poisons the potential jury pool beforehand.

This is why trials take a year or two before being scheduled

Citation please. Most trials around here are held within a couple of months of an arrest.

[flatsixes]

Again, not trying to be a PITA, but the accused's right to remain silent doesn't permit the arrestee to refuse to have his finger prints or mug shot taken by the police. So I'm not sure how we got Miranda involved in all of this.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

The accused has the same rights as anyone else.



The chances of which are increased when the Sheriffs department poisons the potential jury pool beforehand.



Citation please. Most trials around here are held within a couple of months of an arrest.

The accused is restrained. His Miranda Rights read. That about ends the list of his rights.

The chances to poison the jury are mininmal. Really, I have guys I work with that went for jury selection. Unless it is a high profile case no one much cares or has seen pictures of the accused. These very high profile case get moved to other states.

Try living in Baltimore MD were the crime rate is a wee bit higher than your neck of the woods. Baltimore is the revolving door of justice and overburden with cases. It can take a year or so for a case of any substance to arrive to trial.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is how Baltimore handles backlogs...

<H1>Prosecutor acts to ease court backlog

November 07, 1995|By Kate Shatzkin | Kate Shatzkin,SUN STAFF
In an attempt to keep more serious cases from being delayed in a Circuit Court backlog, Baltimore State's Attorney Patricia C. Jessamy has changed her office's rules so that more drug offenders will be charged with misdemeanors instead of felonies.
Now a person can be caught with up to 30 rocks of crack cocaine -- or 30 unit bags of heroin or powdered cocaine -- and be charged only with drug possession, a misdemeanor. That's double the amount of drugs that used to qualify offenders for the felony charge of possession with intent to distribute.
"We're six months down the road in terms of scheduling [Circuit Court] cases," Mrs. Jessamy said yesterday. "We need to get them into court as soon as possible. We need to make the system more efficient."

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[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The accused is restrained. His Miranda Rights read. That about ends the list of his rights.

We'll have to agree to disagree AVG.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

We'll have to agree to disagree AVG.

Yes sir!

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes sir!

Isn't it SIR YES SIR!!!

[Freiwillige]

I could care less either way. Its all to do about nothing really. Sheriff Joe has a system that works. I have friends who have stayed in his tent city (DUI's) and they are determined that they are not going back. Love him or hate him his system works and many of his prior convictions are now his fans.

He gets re-elected easily every time it comes up. He's tough but effective.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

I don't start arguing on whether this is legal or not as I don't know Arizona laws. I say just this.

I understood from info given in article that Mr. Tough Sheriff has put mugshots of everyone they have arrested, suspected or court have found guilty freely available. Okay. Fine. That's not problem if you are found guilty and convicted but what if you are found not guilty? Police makes errors and sometimes new evidence surfaces.

Problem here is that unlike being suspected on or convicted on crime likely exceeds news treshold. Finding someone not guilty usually does not sell in media... So how are you going to get rid of idea that you are suspect or criminal? That people connect your face to robberies or violence crimes for example? Is Mr. Tough Sheriff's office going to buy frontpage advertisement declaring they were wrong and suspect was actually not guilty? I doubt.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

I don't start arguing on whether this is legal or not as I don't know Arizona laws. I say just this.

I understood from info given in article that Mr. Tough Sheriff has put mugshots of everyone they have arrested, suspected or court have found guilty freely available. Okay. Fine. That's not problem if you are found guilty and convicted but what if you are found not guilty? Police makes errors and sometimes new evidence surfaces.

Problem here is that unlike being suspected on or convicted on crime likely exceeds news treshold. Finding someone not guilty usually does not sell in media... So how are you going to get rid of idea that you are suspect or criminal? That people connect your face to robberies or violence crimes for example? Is Mr. Tough Sheriff's office going to buy frontpage advertisement declaring they were wrong and suspect was actually not guilty? I doubt.

This is a good point given that Scumbag Sheriff has made a circus sideshow out of "law enforcement as entertainment." There's no good reason to do what he's doing because not everyone the police arrests is guilty. I'm seeing a lot of the childish idea that "oh well gee the police would never arrest someone who wasn't guilty."

Saying it's the same thing as looking up mugshots because they're public record is a false analogy. Your home telephone number, address, and members of your household can all be found through public records. It doesn't mean it's a good idea to post them on a website for entertainment.