The Starfish in the Kilo - RTE distances

TLAM Strike · 04-21-11, 08:26 AM

Are you just playing the demo?

In the full game either the lattest patch or LWAMI fixed this.

There are SUBROC RTE tables here:
http://subguru.com/downloads.html

smithcorp · 04-21-11, 08:42 AM

Full game - 1.04.

TLAM Strike · 04-21-11, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smithcorp

Full game - 1.04.

Then I would give the LWAMI mod a try, we put a doctrine in that fixed this problem.

smithcorp · 04-21-11, 06:08 PM

Thanks - I'll give that a try (been a bit nervous about mods).

Pisces · 04-22-11, 06:30 AM

There is nothing to be nervous about. It can be enabled and disabled at will with JSGME. You just have to make sure you don't mix up savegames.

Castout · 06-09-11, 07:41 PM

Make a radius circle on the target to measure the exact distance in nautical miles.

The RTE must be set lower than that distance.

RTE means the range at which the missile drops its torpedo payload. The torpedo would still travel some distance after being dropped in mid air. You need to take that distance into account by guess approximation and experience.

If you want to launch 2 missile torpedoes to sandwich between the target both RTE's must be set lower than the range or at max equal to the distance. You need to get those torpedoes to hit the water(not just dropped) as close as possible to the target since these torpedoes are only going to go circle and their endurance due to their small size is not great at all.

The thing I loath is that these have small warhead and in DW 30% damage is just a superficial number while in RL even a 30% hull and shock damage is probably going to incapacitate a submarine rendering it out of combat or severely crippling it effectively making it a neutralized target.

There's no way a starfish or the like hit submarine in RL going to simply say 30% damage to our submarine, flood tube 1 and 2 set bearing 60 degree RTE 8000 yards, active! Open torpedo tubes, launch tube 1, launch tube 2! No way!

In RL they are going to have destroyed compartments, severe flooding, fire, substantial casualties and crew shock, equipment and electronic failure, etc.

Double hull may sustain less critical damage but they aren't going to operate like usual at all still.

Molon Labe · 06-09-11, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

The thing I loath is that these have small warhead and in DW 30% damage is just a superficial number while in RL even a 30% hull and shock damage is probably going to incapacitate a submarine rendering it out of combat or severely crippling it effectively making it a neutralized target.

DW 1.04 warhead for the UMGT-1 is 100, and the Armor value for the 688I/Seawolf is 110. So that's 91% damage with a single hit, which would incapacitate the target. System damage was a nice touch.

IOW, I don't think your issue is with DW. They more or less got this one right.

04-21-11, 08:26 AM	#1
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Are you just playing the demo? In the full game either the lattest patch or LWAMI fixed this. There are SUBROC RTE tables here: http://subguru.com/downloads.html __________________

04-22-11, 06:30 AM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	There is nothing to be nervous about. It can be enabled and disabled at will with JSGME. You just have to make sure you don't mix up savegames. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

06-09-11, 07:41 PM	#6
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Make a radius circle on the target to measure the exact distance in nautical miles. The RTE must be set lower than that distance. RTE means the range at which the missile drops its torpedo payload. The torpedo would still travel some distance after being dropped in mid air. You need to take that distance into account by guess approximation and experience. If you want to launch 2 missile torpedoes to sandwich between the target both RTE's must be set lower than the range or at max equal to the distance. You need to get those torpedoes to hit the water(not just dropped) as close as possible to the target since these torpedoes are only going to go circle and their endurance due to their small size is not great at all. The thing I loath is that these have small warhead and in DW 30% damage is just a superficial number while in RL even a 30% hull and shock damage is probably going to incapacitate a submarine rendering it out of combat or severely crippling it effectively making it a neutralized target. There's no way a starfish or the like hit submarine in RL going to simply say 30% damage to our submarine, flood tube 1 and 2 set bearing 60 degree RTE 8000 yards, active! Open torpedo tubes, launch tube 1, launch tube 2! No way! In RL they are going to have destroyed compartments, severe flooding, fire, substantial casualties and crew shock, equipment and electronic failure, etc. Double hull may sustain less critical damage but they aren't going to operate like usual at all still. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/ Last edited by Castout; 06-09-11 at 08:08 PM.

04-21-11, 08:42 AM	#2
smithcorp Bosun Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 68 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Full game - 1.04.

04-21-11, 06:08 PM	#4
smithcorp Bosun Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 68 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Thanks - I'll give that a try (been a bit nervous about mods).