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Old 04-19-11, 07:24 PM   #1
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Paid 4.20 per gallon last night on my way home.

I also sat there and multiplied my trip meter to the amount I put into the tank, and figured out i'm getting 28 MPH, and thats after lead footing it a little bit. Not bad for a pickup!

I do love my Ford Ranger. Pity they're discontinuing the best gas mileage pickup on the market this year in the US. The powers that be at Ford, must be monumentally stupid.
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Old 04-26-11, 05:09 PM   #2
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Paid 4.20 per gallon last night on my way home.
Lucky you. I pay €1.60 a litre, which is $8.86 a gallon.
Nothing too special around here.
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Old 04-26-11, 05:32 PM   #3
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On the subject of "im butthurt more then you, so STFU with your gas prices", I still think higher gas prices in Europe mean didley squat , because i really don't think you folks are required to drive near the distances that we do.

When your required to drive 300 to 450 miles in a five day week because the only affordable place to live is 30 to 45 miles from work, THEN you might have something to argue with.
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On the subject of "im butthurt more then you, so STFU with your gas prices", I still think higher gas prices in Europe mean didley squat , because i really don't think you folks are required to drive near the distances that we do.

When your required to drive 300 to 450 miles in a five day week because the only affordable place to live is 30 to 45 miles from work, THEN you might have something to argue with.
It may not be as common as in the US, but there are huge loads of people here as well who drive similar distances.

And public transportation isn't really a good option here either. A one-way ticket from Eindhoven to Arnhem without discount costs €14.40, even more than I pay for petrol for the same distance in my Mitsubishi Colt, and taking over two times as much time.
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Most everybody here drives the distances i described. Not huge loads of people, but the vast majority of people. If California was going to be given a subtitle, "Land of the Car" would be appropriate.

There is no public transportation to speak of. What little there is, is ridiuclous. Either they don't route the way you go, or their route is insanely stupid. A 15 minute drive would take you over two hours on a bus, assuming it runs in your area at all.

The logical thing to do then, would be to move closer to work, wouldn't it? The trouble with that, is pricing. Apartments and housing near where the jobs are is so high, only management could afford to live there. That forces you to reside in affordable areas, but with that comes the commute, and with the commute, comes the gas, which you must have. The entire situation is completely dependent upon affordable transportation to work.

If the cost of commute + affordable housing is equal or greater then living in the high cost areas that are closer to work, but you cant afford to begin with, your kinda hosed.

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I'm paying 1300 a month for affordable housing that will allow dogs, and that is a one bedroom apartment. Closer to work, its probably 1800 dollars.
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Most everybody here drives the distances i described. Not huge loads of people, but the vast majority of people. If California was going to be given a subtitle, "Land of the Car" would be appropriate.

There is no public transportation to speak of. What little there is, is ridiuclous. Either they don't route the way you go, or their route is insanely stupid. A 15 minute drive would take you over two hours on a bus, assuming it runs in your area at all.

The logical thing to do then, would be to move closer to work, wouldn't it? The trouble with that, is pricing. Apartments and housing near where the jobs are is so high, only management could afford to live there. That forces you to reside in affordable areas, but with that comes the commute, and with the commute, comes the gas, which you must have. The entire situation is completely dependent upon affordable transportation to work.

If the cost of commute + affordable housing is equal or greater then living in the high cost areas that are closer to work, but you cant afford to begin with, your kinda hosed.

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I'm paying 1300 a month for affordable housing that will allow dogs, and that is a one bedroom apartment. Closer to work, its probably 1800 dollars.
So then the problem is housing prices and/or pay, not petrol.
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EVERYTHING is high here. Including gas. Few places in the US can top california in that department. If you look at the big picture in terms of personal finances, why do you think it's nickname is "cant afford ya".
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So then the problem is housing prices and/or pay, not petrol.
Actually what Duci said effects many. All across NC people moved to the outer dying mill towns for cheaper housing when the market fell. Gas was still affordable. It was much cheaper to live, even if you had to drive a few hours to work. Now people can't afford the gas or the cost of living. Course gas drives all those cost up.

Stange, oil prices down, but gas goes up. Gas use is down, but prices go up. Over $4 a gallon yesterday here.
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Old 04-27-11, 02:10 PM   #9
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I'll just add, Duci is correct, the cost of living is outrageous in Kali- fornia, for various reasons, stupid laws, high taxes. So I would say some of it is self-inflicted (you vote for stupid people (see Nancy pelosi), you get what you vote for).

What is the sales tax there?
The special gas requirements (mixtures)?

The sad thing is, whatever kali-fornia does, ore-gone will follow suit shortly.
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It is not only a matter of high gas prices, but also of the dollar being worth less. The Gov't spends, borrows and prints money like there is no tomorrow. This does not make for a strong dollar.

Remember the phrase "as sound as a dollar"; you don't hear that anymore.
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Old 04-27-11, 03:03 PM   #11
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Duc, what is your timeline for leaving Kali-fornia to UT? Are you still moving there?
From the sounds of things i heard yesterday, probably be moving at the end of May. Just got our foot in the door for a 5 bed, 3 bath, 2 car garage condo with a backyard. Fiancee is putting down the deposit and signing the lease today.

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What is the sales tax there?
9 to 10 percent. Varies by county. Most places its like 9.25%.
(I remember when it was 6-7%)
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From the sounds of things i heard yesterday, probably be moving at the end of May. Just got our foot in the door for a 5 bed, 3 bath, 2 car garage condo with a backyard. Fiancee is putting down the deposit and signing the lease today.
5 bedrooms and one fiancé?! Planning on embracing the Mormon view on marriages, eh?
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Old 04-27-11, 03:07 PM   #13
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I haven't seen it yet, but one bed and bath is in the basement. I guess its common to rent the basement out as an apartment in Utah. (aka "mother in law" apartment).

But yeah, place definatly has room for ahh..... expansion. We plan on no more then two. Well, if i had my way, wed have just one, but as she puts it, "we need a backup in case ones a screw up, cause who's gonna take care of us when we're old otherwise?".

Hard to argue with that logic.
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