Who else could put out a better subsim than Ubisoft

MiTon · 04-18-11, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBANGtheory

Eagle Dynamics

If you wan't a full simulation?

YES!

Feuer Frei! · 04-18-11, 11:08 AM

Hard to say. Who has expertise in the Submarine sims?
And... the question is not being specific enough.
The question should have included "...uncompleted"?

Wouldn't be a fair contest if the new dev had a good crack at it. Until the end, ie a finished product.

elanaiba · 04-29-11, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Hard to say. Who has expertise in the Submarine sims?

Do not over-estimate experience. It will save you some time, but also maybe get you going on the same (wrong?) road.

Nobody in the SH3 team had developed a sub sim before, or was really a walking encyclopedia of Submarine Warfare. But we learned.

stoianm · 04-29-11, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

Do not over-estimate experience. It will save you some time, but also maybe get you going on the same (wrong?) road.

Nobody in the SH3 team had developed a sub sim before, or was really a walking encyclopedia of Submarine Warfare. But we learned.

Tnx for your eforts elanaiba

andycaccia · 04-20-11, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MiTon

If you wan't a full simulation?

YES!

MMMHHH...

I've visited their site...not bad. They could make a nice simulator, but the only sims are about aircrafts and helicopters...

Arclight · 04-21-11, 12:10 AM

Like Ducimus stated, no big publisher will get involved with a historical WWII sub-sim.

If anyone, Paradox might take a crack at it. They're are currently working on a naval game (actually, Turbo Tape Games; Paradox is publishing), but even that is stated to sacrifice some realism for gameplay (not a bad thing imho, but it's not what SH is about). And it also focuses on larger scale naval engagements, not the niche-within-a-niche that is WWII (or any era, really) submarines.

I guess there's Stardock as well, but I don't see them getting involved with naval games anytime soon.

Think there were some rumors going around about Valve doing a sub-game, but that was based on the fact that at some point in the distant past they worked on one for a bit. Not exactly compelling. And probably wouldn't be a sim.

And there's Akella. They do quite a few games that prominently feature the high seas... not sure how likely that is though. Their offering that comes closest, PT Boats, fell a little short of expectations, so they're likely burned on the genre as well.

Not a chance in hell Eagle Dynamics is even remotely thinking about submarines at the moment. Maybe Sonalysts could pull something off, but again I would expect something along the lines of Fleet Command/Dangerous Waters... never know though, they are far from out of the game.

longam · 04-21-11, 04:36 PM

Simulators need to go MMO so they can have many years of continuous development. I can just imagine a full blown WWII ground-air-sea battle sim with many people joining in.

jwilliams · 04-21-11, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

Simulators need to go MMO so they can have many years of continuous development. I can just imagine a full blown WWII ground-air-sea battle sim with many people joining in.

This would be good for FPS or RPG's but for sub sims????

You would be unable to use time compression. Imagine having to play at 1x TC. Also logging in and out, after spending hours getting into position for a torpedo shot, the ship you where about to fire at decided to log out

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So I cant see how it could be implemented.

Zedi · 04-21-11, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwilliams

This would be good for FPS or RPG's but for sub sims????

You would be unable to use time compression. Imagine having to play at 1x TC. Also logging in and out, after spending hours getting into position for a torpedo shot, the ship you where about to fire at decided to log out

.

So I cant see how it could be implemented.

Same as it is in PotBS now. Easy.

jwilliams · 04-21-11, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zedi

Same as it is in PotBS now. Easy.

Never knew about this game... looks interesting. Free too. Thanks for the info. Might have to check this out.

wingtip · 04-21-11, 08:47 PM

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After seeing how EA has completely porked every IP they've gotten their hands on, they're the last publisher I'd want touching a sub sim.

amen brother.... EA totally trashed the nascar sim community after it obtained the rights to the nascar name in 2004 from sierra/papyrus and their fantastic nascar2003 sim.... EA came out with their version which was and still is a total farce and is more or less a bumper car mario kart game and nothing more....

so i wouldnt want them to touch a known franchise like SH either...ubi just needs to pull their head out of their ass on the next one...

sirbum69 · 04-21-11, 08:49 PM

have you seen what Eutecknics has done to Nascar...now that it has teh right to make one....They did worse then EA ever did to nascar...2011 is mario kart all over again...

Kapitanleutnant · 04-29-11, 12:46 PM

My cat could do a better job than Ubisoft.

stoianm · 04-29-11, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

My cat could do a better job than Ubisoft.

I totaly desagree with you

04-18-11, 11:08 AM	#2
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Hard to say. Who has expertise in the Submarine sims? And... the question is not being specific enough. The question should have included "...uncompleted"? Wouldn't be a fair contest if the new dev had a good crack at it. Until the end, ie a finished product. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

04-21-11, 12:10 AM	#6
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Like Ducimus stated, no big publisher will get involved with a historical WWII sub-sim. If anyone, Paradox might take a crack at it. They're are currently working on a naval game (actually, Turbo Tape Games; Paradox is publishing), but even that is stated to sacrifice some realism for gameplay (not a bad thing imho, but it's not what SH is about). And it also focuses on larger scale naval engagements, not the niche-within-a-niche that is WWII (or any era, really) submarines. I guess there's Stardock as well, but I don't see them getting involved with naval games anytime soon. Think there were some rumors going around about Valve doing a sub-game, but that was based on the fact that at some point in the distant past they worked on one for a bit. Not exactly compelling. And probably wouldn't be a sim. And there's Akella. They do quite a few games that prominently feature the high seas... not sure how likely that is though. Their offering that comes closest, PT Boats, fell a little short of expectations, so they're likely burned on the genre as well. Not a chance in hell Eagle Dynamics is even remotely thinking about submarines at the moment. Maybe Sonalysts could pull something off, but again I would expect something along the lines of Fleet Command/Dangerous Waters... never know though, they are far from out of the game. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

04-29-11, 12:46 PM	#13
Kapitanleutnant Frogman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 305 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	My cat could do a better job than Ubisoft. __________________ Oh worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning!

04-21-11, 04:36 PM	#7
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Simulators need to go MMO so they can have many years of continuous development. I can just imagine a full blown WWII ground-air-sea battle sim with many people joining in.

04-21-11, 08:49 PM	#12
sirbum69 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 178 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	have you seen what Eutecknics has done to Nascar...now that it has teh right to make one....They did worse then EA ever did to nascar...2011 is mario kart all over again...