Eurozone still dodgy

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

Anyone else see the irony in this being posed by someone named "Happy Times"?

Sorry for not being happy about Finland destroying its credit rating to save Greece, Portugal, Ireland and the rest.
And for this European Stability Mechanism pressed upon us that will bring with it the Federal State in Europe without any democracy

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Sorry for not being happy about Finland destroying its credit rating to save Greece, Portugal, Ireland and the rest.
And for this European Stability Mechanism pressed upon us that will bring with it the Federal State in Europe without any democracy

Very much my opinion too. Eurozone was nice when everyone took care of their own responsibilities like taking care of their economy. I don't remember anyone told that there would be obligation to pay others debts as necessary.

Politicians in Greece saw it fit to offer everything for everyone by loaning money and they failed to think who would pay the bill. Same fits to Portugal, Ireland and who know next? Luckily (for them) there are idiots like Finnish politicians who are happily paying others debt to look good in EU. I would like to know who they think will be stupid enough to pay Finland's debt in 2030's when this card house called Finland fails?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

And for this European Stability Mechanism

What stability mechanism...?

There is none worth the name. The old one got killed, the new labels is given unjustified.

They are talking all this crap. But that does not mean that the crap has any meaning. Our chancellor Merkel has been chief secretary for propaganda in the GDR's FdJ. She has learned the business of propagandistic crap-talking from the very basics on, and since months we lauch in Germany aboiut the empty wordshells and hollow phrases she constantly fires to the press and the parliament. She is a crap-talker in the finest meaning of the word.

We have a nice nickname for her. We call her "Honnecker's late revenge to the BRD". And there is more truth in it than one can find pleasant. It is an irony of history that especially the socalled, now destroyed, conservatives have been stripped of the meaning of the word "conservative" by Merkel, and now are one of the strongest driving powers in the EU for an indeed socialist federal EU-state where the rich nations have to pay, pay, pay, pay until they have completely ruined themselves, too.

[Feuer Frei!]

@ Skybird:

who do you think would be CURRENTLY, as things stand right now in the best position to lead Germany?
And i don't mean from a popularity contest only factor.
Policies, strength of character, good speaker, knowledgable,
and amongst other things actually a willingness to want to help Germany out of the doldrums.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

@ Skybird:

who do you think would be CURRENTLY, as things stand right now in the best position to lead Germany?
And i don't mean from a popularity contest only factor.
Policies, strength of character, good speaker, knowledgable,
and amongst other things actually a willingness to want to help Germany out of the doldrums.

I have no name on mind. As far as I am concerned, you can sink the whole Reichstag and all party offices around it. There certainly is nobody qulifying for the descritpion of a "Staatsmann". And the whole poltical caste has degenerated into a pitiful bunch of nothingness that is only concverned with one question: how to use what tentacle to find a greasy way to cling to power.

It is a structural problem. These structures are not as that they can form and create great and good character in a politician to power. The systemn is tailored to reward the opportunist and the piowerhungry narcissist. Many little big egos, playing "manager".

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

@ Skybird:

who do you think would be CURRENTLY, as things stand right now in the best position to lead Germany?
And i don't mean from a popularity contest only factor.
Policies, strength of character, good speaker, knowledgable,
and amongst other things actually a willingness to want to help Germany out of the doldrums.

I have no name on mind. As far as I am concerned, you can sink the whole Reichstag and all party offices around it. There certainly is nobody qulifying for the descritpion of a "Staatsmann". And the whole poltical caste has degenerated into a pitiful bunch of nothingness that is only concverned with one question: how to use what tentacle to find a greasy way to cling to power.

It is a structural problem. These structures are not as that they can form and create great and good character in a politician. The system is tailored to reward the opportunist and the powerhungry narcissist. Many little big egos, playing "manager". Phrase jugglers. Money-experimentators.

[Feuer Frei!]

That's a worry.
Nothing on the horizon.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Skybird

What stability mechanism...?

Sorry, i ment the Ponzi scheme.

Crab talkin is going to its end because people are starting to see what they have actually done to us.
The big fall should have come in 2008, now everything is going to get so much worse.
Politicians and bankers are going to hang, maybe literally.