Dead baby discovered in bin bag in Rainham

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

abortion.

not to go down this road

but

I dont see the difference between vacuuming the scrambled remains of a fetus out into a medical waste can, and throwing a newborn infant into the garbage to die.

i dont make that distinction for some reason.

its very very closed minded to call it a "living organism that has rights" just because it came out of the vagina.

i mean... is it not to be considered a living organism 3 seconds before it's head comes out of the vagina?

is it not to be considered a living organism 20 minutes before its head comes out of the vagina?

what about 1 day?

a week?

3 months?

the problem i have with abortion is that simple minded line in the sand that says "your not a human being that deserves rights unless your head has come out of the vagina."

there are Chinese women who have had Japanese soldiers use their samurai swords to cut the living fetuses out of their bulging bellies who i am sure would argue that it is indeed a living organism as it spewed out onto the ground and instantly tried to survive in the same way as any one of us might try to do while wet and naked on the surface of mars.

here my wife and i have been trying to have children for 5 years folks

and this woman is throwing her own child in the garbage. and a greater number of women still are just mutilating them en utero and having them vacuumed out as medical waste.

Humans can be a disgusting species.

its just shameful.

I cannot understand why anyone would chose abortion, or the trash bin over adoption. - in either case of abortion - or trash bin - you have denied a human being their right to a happy life.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

not to go down this road

but

I dont see the difference between vacuuming the scrambled remains of a fetus out into a medical waste can, and throwing a newborn infant into the garbage to die.

i dont make that distinction for some reason.

thats because you are thinking about late term abortions, which are rightly illegal unless absolutely necessary. I'm talking about early term, before the fetus is aware. I can go on an on...but I'm under the firm belief that a woman womb is her own business and not something we can legislate.

But I think we can agree this woman needed to be educated in the alternatives before taking such horrible measures. rather than just jumping right to abortion and its oh so long internet argument.

[Dan D]

Infanticide , hard to believe that this phenomenon still exists even today in present societies despite welfare, baby hatches, etc.
You read about it every couple of months in the newspapers.

Does not throw a good light on us. Pregnant women should not get into a situation where it seems to be an option for some of them to give birth anonymously and to abandon the child afterwards. We ought to be able to offer alternatives.

[Jimbuna]

Back OT....how so very tragic