The proposed 2012 budget...

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

So your whole argument is that the Democrats were fooled by Bush? In 2008? That although you guys had spent previous 8 years repeatedly telling yourselves and the country ad nauseum how stupid and evil George was he still managed to snooker you out of nearly a trillion bucks in his last year in office?

I can't think of a more blatant indictment on the fitness of the Democratic party to lead this nation.

no, but you try to ignore the fact that your party is just as responsible for TARP as we are. Which paints your current budget "crusade" in a pretty hypocritical light. Especially when your party kept voting to pay and pay and pay for a worthless war started on false pretenses.

but then again, this current anti spending obsession isn't about the budget. It's pure political Posturing to try and get elected. I expect to see the republicans cut scores of programs for the middle class while giving more money to the military industrial complex, Rich, and Corporations, In a time where everybody should be pulling their own tax weight. I also expect them trying to paint all of this as being in the bes interest for the people they just screwed over.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

...this current anti spending obsession isn't about the budget. It's pure political Posturing to try and get elected.

Yeah well that belief cost your party control of the House of Representatives last year and it's going to cost you the US Senate next year, maybe even the White House and I say good riddance to all of you.

Meanwhile Gitmo prison remains open, your party has started a whole new war on a completely different continent. They have offered to keep our troops in Iraq past their own deadline. They are continuing the war in Afghanistan and all you Dems can do is whine about how terrible the evil Republicans are. Not much of a platform for success I must say.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Yeah well that belief cost your party control of the House of Representatives last year and it's going to cost you the US Senate next year, maybe even the White House and I say good riddance to all of you.

Not a belief. Arguing over 1.5% of the budget and painting it like it's the panacea to all of our nation's debt problems can't be anything BUT politics. You honestly think it's fiscal responsibility? Please tell me you're not that gullible.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Not a belief. Arguing over 1.5% of the budget and painting it like it's the panacea to all of our nation's debt problems can't be anything BUT politics. You honestly think it's fiscal responsibility? Please tell me you're not that gullible.

No I don't think it's fiscal responsibility. On the other hand the Democrat argument that even this small percentage is "too much" is even less responsible don't you think?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

No I don't think it's fiscal responsibility. On the other hand the Democrat argument that even this small percentage is "too much" is even less responsible don't you think?

Yes. Some form of cuts should be made to Defense, Medicare and Social Security. Cut things that actually matter and have significant costs. None of the current proposals do that.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

No I don't think it's fiscal responsibility. On the other hand the Democrat argument that even this small percentage is "too much" is even less responsible don't you think?

So in other words you're okay with your party engaging in a political charade solely for pursuit of political power, while they lie and say it's actually for budget reasons? I think the same old same old GOP just jumped out of the Trojan horse labeled "spending" that they rode in on. It's no wonder they have only cut a minimal of the budget so far (mostly programs they don't like) but are trying to ram their old social ideas down the nations gullet.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I think the same old same old GOP just jumped out of the Trojan horse labeled "spending" that they rode in on.

That's a great analogy.

[Onkel Neal]

I think the coming social collapse of the United States will be good for the people, in the long run. Make us a hardy, self-reliant breed, as we were in the beginning.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's a great analogy.

Only to an idiot who actually believes the propaganda he's fed.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

So in other words you're okay with your party engaging in a political charade solely for pursuit of political power, while they lie and say it's actually for budget reasons?

Is that what MOVEON and daily KOS is telling you? Well you just keep believing that and your party will continue to loose elections.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

Is that what MOVEON and daily KOS is telling you? Well you just keep believing that and your party will continue to loose elections.

I don't read those. actually the first and last time time I ever visited that site was when YOU mentioned it. Also, did you not just say you knew that the republican behavior isn't fiscal responsibility? What else would it be then? if it's not fiscal responsibility OR an attempt at a power grab? Maybe it's some kind of super dooper fun republican alternate reality games!! that would be so swell!!

also, thanks for being the bigger man and calling mookie an idiot. Staying classy i presume?