The proposed 2012 budget...

frau kaleun · 04-09-11, 08:37 PM

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Any lawmaker who was using Planned Parenthood as an obstacle to getting this budget passed is duplicitous lying scum.

Sometimes it almost seems like the really radical ones believe that unwanted parenthood and the possibility of life-altering or even fatal disease is the punishment someone deserves for engaging in something as "dirty" as sexual intercourse.

Except of course if you're married, in which case it's a fantasyland where disease and unwanted pregnancy never happen because all married couples were virgins on their honeymoon and remain 100% faithful to each other, and every sexual encounter is a de facto expression of the desire to make (another) baby. And if you didn't want to make a baby, then the risk of doing so is the price you have to pay for the sin of non-procreative lust.

mookiemookie · 04-09-11, 08:52 PM

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Sometimes it almost seems like the really radical ones believe that unwanted parenthood and the possibility of life-altering or even fatal disease is the punishment someone deserves for engaging in something as "dirty" as sexual intercourse.

Except of course if you're married, in which case it's a fantasyland where disease and unwanted pregnancy never happen because all married couples were virgins on their honeymoon and remain 100% faithful to each other, and every sexual encounter is a de facto expression of the desire to make (another) baby. And if you didn't want to make a baby, then the risk of doing so is the price you have to pay for the sin of non-procreative lust.

Surely the Duggars are the ideal everyone should aspire to.

gimpy117 · 04-09-11, 10:03 PM

It also seems that some of the people who are most vocal against abortion are also for small government and extensive freedoms without gov. control. Which is really ironic since telling you what you can and can't do with your body is about the ultimate invasion of your freedoms.

furthermore, I'm sure these people would be very critical of a Muslim theocracy, but are trying to get their religious beliefs incorporated into our government.

August · 04-09-11, 10:26 PM

All of which has squat to do with getting federal spending under control except as a distraction from it.

gimpy117 · 04-10-11, 01:04 AM

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All of which has squat to do with getting federal spending under control except as a distraction from it.

but thats the thing. The GOP says it has something to do with the budget. Why? because as i said before, they are using the crisis to eliminate funding for programs they don't like. Essentially using the purse to forward partisan and religious ideas.

04-10-11, 03:00 AM

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At bottom it is all very much a part of the "every sperm is sacred" and "sex is for procreation only" and "you will have as many babies as God decides you will have" kind of thinking that pervades the radical religious right.

August · 04-10-11, 07:49 AM

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...eliminate funding for programs they don't like.

The Democrats have so many Sacred Cows it's impossible not to affect something that y'all will complain about. You're just taking this particular molehill and trying to make it into as big a political mountain as possible in order to divert attention away from the fact that all federal programs are bloated and need severe trimming.

We've already seen what happens when the Democrats are left in charge. Raising taxes and fees is the only thing they know how to do. Well that and punting the budget to the next session of Congress. Avoid the issue then criticize and complain. They're very good at that.

mookiemookie · 04-10-11, 08:45 AM

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The Democrats have so many Sacred Cows it's impossible not to affect something that y'all will complain about. You're just taking this particular molehill and trying to make it into as big a political mountain as possible in order to divert attention away from the fact that all federal programs are bloated and need severe trimming.

We've already seen what happens when the Democrats are left in charge. Raising taxes and fees is the only thing they know how to do. Well that and punting the budget to the next session of Congress. Avoid the issue then criticize and complain. They're very good at that.

Bill Maher: "The republicans run on the ticket that government doesn't work. Then they ---- it up and say, 'See?'"

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	It also seems that some of the people who are most vocal against abortion are also for small government and extensive freedoms without gov. control. Which is really ironic since telling you what you can and can't do with your body is about the ultimate invasion of your freedoms. furthermore, I'm sure these people would be very critical of a Muslim theocracy, but are trying to get their religious beliefs incorporated into our government. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,216 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All of which has squat to do with getting federal spending under control except as a distraction from it. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.