The proposed 2012 budget... - Page 7

mookiemookie · 04-08-11, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I believe that free markets deserve a large share of credit for getting us this far.

I believe you're right - radical deregulation and unwavering worship of "The Free Market" ideology in the face of all sense and prudence has led us into the most expensive financial crisis this country has ever seen. So yes, in a way the "free market" has got us to where we're at.

Ducimus · 04-08-11, 04:04 PM

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Oberon · 04-08-11, 08:08 PM

So...is this like some kind of governmental BSOD?

Is Lizzie going to have to come over and hit the reset button?

Oberon · 04-09-11, 06:21 AM

Looks like enough processes were closed to prevent bluescreen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13022575

04-09-11, 07:20 AM

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Looks like enough processes were closed to prevent bluescreen.

So the compromise was to keep condoms but get rid of some pollution regulation

mookiemookie · 04-09-11, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

So the compromise was to keep condoms

And wanting to get rid of them never made any damn sense in the first place. If you're against abortion, you should be all for Planned Parenthood. It was started by Nixon with the support of Bush 1 because contraception kept women from having more babies and kept them off welfare.

Well, that's when "the GOP" didn't mean "eat your own feces insane."

Platapus · 04-09-11, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Reboot the federal government. I wish.

gimpy117 · 04-09-11, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And wanting to get rid of them never made any damn sense in the first place. If you're against abortion, you should be all for Planned Parenthood. It was started by Nixon with the support of Bush 1 because contraception kept women from having more babies and kept them off welfare.

Well, that's when "the GOP" didn't mean "eat your own feces insane."

yeah, then they advocated "abstinence only programs" Pretty much the Sexual education they give kids is summed up as "don't have sex".

Closing down places Like Planned parenthood would be a GIANT mistake, and one done purely to benefit one interest group at pretty much every sexually active young person's expense, not just women. Opponents said they were abortion mills and people were using them like birth control (which is madness because abortions are a pretty good amount of money and not something any woman takes lightly), but they also provided other services like STD tests etc.

With all the new abortion laws etc, I can can bet were gonna start having more welfare babies. And that's going to cost us even more money in the long run. This pretty much shows this isn't a fiscal move. It's another way of controlling moral and social issues with the purse strings. Programs Like planned parenthood and the EPA aren't going to bankrupt this nation, but thats what the GOP is saying so they can slash their budgets and make big business happy there's nobody to regulate the sludge they dump into a river, or the Far religious right and Pro-lifers happy because they can regulate somebody else's womb, making them stop frothing at the mouth long enough for them to vote "red" next election.

DarkFish · 04-09-11, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And wanting to get rid of them never made any damn sense in the first place. If you're against abortion, you should be all for Planned Parenthood. It was started by Nixon with the support of Bush 1 because contraception kept women from having more babies and kept them off welfare.

Well, that's when "the GOP" didn't mean "eat your own feces insane."

They really want to get rid of condoms?! ZOMGOMG they're even worse than I thought

mookiemookie · 04-09-11, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

They really want to get rid of condoms?! ZOMGOMG they're even worse than I thought

Hah - to clarify what I meant, PP started receiving federal funds in 1970. Now they want to de-fund it for some twisted weird reason. Having known many women who would not have had the level of access to birth control they did if not for PP, this is a completely idiotic stance.

Armistead · 04-09-11, 03:56 PM

I keep laughing at those that think corporations are taxed too much. Sure, up front it seems they pay high taxes, but after loopholes and shelters, they pay one of the lowest rates in the world... I would have no problem lowering taxes if all the stupid loopholes were done away with. It's just the GOP's way of hiding from the left hand what the right hand is doing.

Every great kingdom was brought down by greed. Then those that end up with the goods see it all go when a nation crumbles..You think we would learn from history.

Oberon · 04-09-11, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

You think we would learn from history.

Why start now?

Onkel Neal · 04-09-11, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I believe you're right - radical deregulation and unwavering worship of "The Free Market" ideology in the face of all sense and prudence has led us into the most expensive financial crisis this country has ever seen. So yes, in a way the "free market" has got us to where we're at.

You know what I mean. Every systems needs rules and checks, excessive "deregulation" allows corruption. Still, the free market beats the alternatives. Just what do you propose?

04-09-11, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Reboot the federal government. I wish.

The 1 dollar bill agrees.

gimpy117 · 04-09-11, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I keep laughing at those that think corporations are taxed too much. Sure, up front it seems they pay high taxes, but after loopholes and shelters, they pay one of the lowest rates in the world... I would have no problem lowering taxes if all the stupid loopholes were done away with. It's just the GOP's way of hiding from the left hand what the right hand is doing.

the problem now is, That the GOP was somehow able to make the public believe that corporate taxes are directly connected with the economy, which it is to an extent yes, but they have been able to sell the fabrication that any raises on the corporate taxes would make everything go to hell, and lowering taxes will create scores of jobs. So now, whenever they want to lower taxes for their corporate buddies they can without any complaint from the masses because all they have to repeat is: "it will surely create jobs", and can hang a tax raise over all our heads because: "what are you doing!, you'll ruin everything".

but this is all blown out of the water by GE.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I keep laughing at those that think corporations are taxed too much. Sure, up front it seems they pay high taxes, but after loopholes and shelters, they pay one of the lowest rates in the world... I would have no problem lowering taxes if all the stupid loopholes were done away with. It's just the GOP's way of hiding from the left hand what the right hand is doing. Every great kingdom was brought down by greed. Then those that end up with the goods see it all go when a nation crumbles..You think we would learn from history.