Ship Names April 2011

Wreford-Brown · 04-08-11, 01:23 PM

Do you ever sleep, Steve?
Another great update to your mod - thank you.

Sailor Steve · 04-08-11, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

Do you ever sleep, Steve?

All the time. That's why there's only 167 new ships after two months, when there should have been 600.

Mouftic · 04-08-11, 08:53 PM

Great job!

Really adds to the realism of the game.

One quick question, if I sink a British flower escort, is the game going to pick any flower excorts for names or just the British ones.

thanks

frau kaleun · 04-08-11, 09:11 PM

It's actually Commander that will add the name to your logs... and it will pick a name at random from all the names listed for a particular class. Unfortunately there's no way to make it distinguish between ships of different nations in the same class. The game doesn't keep a record of which nation spawned a ship, so even if there were a way to filter the choices by nation within a particular class, Commander wouldn't have the info necessary to do that. The class designation [COFlower] is all it has to work with.

One "solution" would be to create a duplicate ship class of a different name in data\Sea for US Flower class ships only, then have that class spawn from the American roster and let the original one spawn from the British roster only. But that adds another ship that the game has to load and if you did it for every ship class that includes more than one nation... BIG extra drain on your system.

The other workaround is to keep two different ShipNames.cfg files, one for the early part of the war and one for after the US enters the fray. "USS" ships can be removed from the mixed-nation classes in the first list and left in the second list. That way they would never show up in your logs until you switched the files after Dec 1941.

Edit: I should add that doing this can end up being a LOT of work. Depending on how Steve has the ships sorted in the original list, it can involve a lot of renumbering, because they have to be listed as 0001, 0002, 0003 and so on without skipping a number otherwise it fouls things up.

Mouftic · 04-09-11, 02:11 AM

Ok, i'll pass on the renaming and all...

Thanks for that indepth answer.

Sailor Steve · 04-09-11, 11:31 AM

Life would be so much easier if there was a Commander for SH4. There only needs to be one folder for each ship, and it can be applied to any nation without creating new folders.

04-08-11, 01:23 PM	#1
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	Do you ever sleep, Steve? Another great update to your mod - thank you. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

04-08-11, 08:53 PM	#3
Mouftic Mate Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 59 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Great job! Really adds to the realism of the game. One quick question, if I sink a British flower escort, is the game going to pick any flower excorts for names or just the British ones. thanks __________________ The sonar operator is the only sailor that can tell the captain to shushhhh and get away with it...

04-09-11, 02:11 AM	#5
Mouftic Mate Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 59 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Ok, i'll pass on the renaming and all... Thanks for that indepth answer. __________________ The sonar operator is the only sailor that can tell the captain to shushhhh and get away with it...

04-09-11, 11:31 AM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Life would be so much easier if there was a Commander for SH4. There only needs to be one folder for each ship, and it can be applied to any nation without creating new folders. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-08-11, 09:11 PM	#4
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	It's actually Commander that will add the name to your logs... and it will pick a name at random from all the names listed for a particular class. Unfortunately there's no way to make it distinguish between ships of different nations in the same class. The game doesn't keep a record of which nation spawned a ship, so even if there were a way to filter the choices by nation within a particular class, Commander wouldn't have the info necessary to do that. The class designation [COFlower] is all it has to work with. One "solution" would be to create a duplicate ship class of a different name in data\Sea for US Flower class ships only, then have that class spawn from the American roster and let the original one spawn from the British roster only. But that adds another ship that the game has to load and if you did it for every ship class that includes more than one nation... BIG extra drain on your system. The other workaround is to keep two different ShipNames.cfg files, one for the early part of the war and one for after the US enters the fray. "USS" ships can be removed from the mixed-nation classes in the first list and left in the second list. That way they would never show up in your logs until you switched the files after Dec 1941. Edit: I should add that doing this can end up being a LOT of work. Depending on how Steve has the ships sorted in the original list, it can involve a lot of renumbering, because they have to be listed as 0001, 0002, 0003 and so on without skipping a number otherwise it fouls things up.