Initial Questions about the ACTUV project...

Molon Labe · 04-05-11, 01:53 PM

So, I noticed when I saw the P-8 in game, there were torpedoes on the hardpoints.

Then when I looked at it in the USNI reference, the 3D model did not include anything on the hardpoints.

You know what this means, right?
I'd so like a patch right now.

That reminds me, I have some files to decompress.

Frying Tiger · 04-05-11, 02:02 PM

Uh, nothing in the Reference Guide ever has had any hardpoint ordinance visible.

I'm rather proud of that model, however.

Molon Labe · 04-05-11, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

Uh, nothing in the Reference Guide ever has had any hardpoint ordinance visible.

I'm rather proud of that model, however.

Nothing in the sim that wasn't Ownship ever had any ordnance---or any other attached object---visible.

Hey, while I've got you here, want to save me an afternoon?
Other than the models present in the ACTUV scenarios, are there any other updated models in the graphics package you allowed us to download with ACTUV? I couldn't help but notice it is a "full" DW package rather than just the stuff needed for the DARPA sim.

04-05-11, 02:08 PM

Was already tested in RA addition is runs well (All 5 types ACTUV).

As all sensors ACTUV have an option of exact distance for target - is encourages.

That is - the presence TMA of station actually is not required.
The found out contact - gives at once exact target location.

And function of transfer of contact for attack on promotion link - is very good works.

04-05-11, 02:22 PM

To: LoBlo

>>"Question 6#: The AI in DW never seemed to really needed to use triangulation or TMA (it just instaneously knew the speed/course/range of any contact it detected). Will the ACTUV need to use TMA?"

In the original version DW, AI Sub never shoots quickly.

After she will find out contact - she will shoot from 4 about 10 minutes. It unless not triangulation?

Other business, that this delay did not give to shoot even on SNAPSHOT - on active ping.

-RA- addon eliminates these problems.

And ТМА solution there is - AI a submarine will execute at first manouevre for TMA of the decision, and only will shoot then.

ACTUV - Has all sensors with an exact distance - Visual, HF Sonar, MF Sonar, Radar.

All these sensor controls will give exact range at first target detected.

TMA - Simply unnecessary.

IMPORTANT NOTE: However - ACTUV there are no arms. A communication facility also seems does not work.

Therefore it is not so urgent - anyway, to kill the target is not stipulated. And it too badly "black mark" for gameplay.

Molon Labe · 04-05-11, 05:02 PM

I was going to be disappointed if I didn't find anything....

But I did find this.

Thanks, Frying Tiger!!

And FT, just to be clear, I wasn't complaining about the Reference, I was observing a subtle improvement to the sim. It was DW I wanted patched, not ACTUV. ; )

LoBlo · 04-05-11, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -GrayOwl-

Was already tested in RA addition is runs well (All 5 types ACTUV).

The civillian ships are definately nice models and worth importing into DW mods as well. Great skins.

TLAM Strike · 04-05-11, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

So, I noticed when I saw the P-8 in game, there were torpedoes on the hardpoints.

It helps my ego to think they stole that idea from me...

Molon Labe · 04-05-11, 06:29 PM

Those weapons are NOT on the P-8's model. And if there is a 2nd model of the P-8 that includes weapons, I can't find it.

I think they stole the Boston Whaler from you.

EDIT: You might also be interested to know that the DW scenario editor will NOT open ACTUV files. This is probably due to improvements in the scenario editor.... apparently the user can set the layer depth in the Editor now.

TLAM Strike · 04-05-11, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

I think they stole the Boston Whaler from you.

Got a pic?

Frying Tiger · 04-05-11, 09:31 PM

All of the models are custom-built by Sonalysts (read:me). We haven't used any third-party models, nor would we without permission or compensation.

Gargamel · 04-05-11, 09:41 PM

FT, any chance of other ACTUV platforms being used (added later)? Or are these based on contractors proposals?

Some of the designs are just ridiculous when you look at the mission requirements.

Molon Labe · 04-05-11, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

All of the models are custom-built by Sonalysts (read:me). We haven't used any third-party models, nor would we without permission or compensation.

I wasn't being serious.

Sea Demon · 04-06-11, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frying Tiger

All of the models are custom-built by Sonalysts (read:me). We haven't used any third-party models, nor would we without permission or compensation.

My compliments to you sir. IMO, those are some nice models.

04-05-11, 01:53 PM	#1
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	So, I noticed when I saw the P-8 in game, there were torpedoes on the hardpoints. Then when I looked at it in the USNI reference, the 3D model did not include anything on the hardpoints. You know what this means, right? I'd so like a patch right now. That reminds me, I have some files to decompress. __________________

04-05-11, 02:02 PM	#2
Frying Tiger Sonalysts Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Uh, nothing in the Reference Guide ever has had any hardpoint ordinance visible. I'm rather proud of that model, however. __________________ *Roger "Frying Tiger"* Long** Art Lead Sonalysts Combat Simulations "the atom-powered submarine: Her engines were to be a miracle of speed and power, her sides strong enough to withstand any blow... The mind of man had thought of everything - except that which was beyond his comprehension!"

04-05-11, 02:22 PM	#5
-GrayOwl- Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	To: LoBlo >>"Question 6#: The AI in DW never seemed to really needed to use triangulation or TMA (it just instaneously knew the speed/course/range of any contact it detected). Will the ACTUV need to use TMA?" In the original version DW, AI Sub never shoots quickly. After she will find out contact - she will shoot from 4 about 10 minutes. It unless not triangulation? Other business, that this delay did not give to shoot even on SNAPSHOT - on active ping. -RA- addon eliminates these problems. And ТМА solution there is - AI a submarine will execute at first manouevre for TMA of the decision, and only will shoot then. ACTUV - Has all sensors with an exact distance - Visual, HF Sonar, MF Sonar, Radar. All these sensor controls will give exact range at first target detected. TMA - Simply unnecessary. IMPORTANT NOTE: However - ACTUV there are no arms. A communication facility also seems does not work. Therefore it is not so urgent - anyway, to kill the target is not stipulated. And it too badly "black mark" for gameplay. Last edited by -GrayOwl-; 04-05-11 at 02:47 PM.

04-05-11, 05:02 PM	#6
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	I was going to be disappointed if I didn't find anything.... But I did find this. Thanks, Frying Tiger!! And FT, just to be clear, I wasn't complaining about the Reference, I was observing a subtle improvement to the sim. It was DW I wanted patched, not ACTUV. ; ) __________________ Last edited by Molon Labe; 04-05-11 at 05:26 PM.

04-05-11, 06:29 PM	#9
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Those weapons are NOT on the P-8's model. And if there is a 2nd model of the P-8 that includes weapons, I can't find it. I think they stole the Boston Whaler from you. EDIT: You might also be interested to know that the DW scenario editor will NOT open ACTUV files. This is probably due to improvements in the scenario editor.... apparently the user can set the layer depth in the Editor now. __________________

04-05-11, 02:08 PM	#4
-GrayOwl- Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Was already tested in RA addition is runs well (All 5 types ACTUV). As all sensors ACTUV have an option of exact distance for target - is encourages. That is - the presence TMA of station actually is not required. The found out contact - gives at once exact target location. And function of transfer of contact for attack on promotion link - is very good works.

04-05-11, 09:31 PM	#11
Frying Tiger Sonalysts Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All of the models are custom-built by Sonalysts (read:me). We haven't used any third-party models, nor would we without permission or compensation. __________________ *Roger "Frying Tiger"* Long** Art Lead Sonalysts Combat Simulations "the atom-powered submarine: Her engines were to be a miracle of speed and power, her sides strong enough to withstand any blow... The mind of man had thought of everything - except that which was beyond his comprehension!"

04-05-11, 09:41 PM	#12
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	FT, any chance of other ACTUV platforms being used (added later)? Or are these based on contractors proposals? Some of the designs are just ridiculous when you look at the mission requirements. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.