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Old 04-04-11, 07:59 AM   #1
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The Japanese were conducting operations across the Pacific and every battle they fought around that time they were out numbed in.

Plus I think it was intended that Force Z would operate along side US, Australian and Dutch forces once everyone got their act together. With Force Z ABDA Com would have had something like 1 CV (Force Z was intended to have one), 2 BBs, 3 Heavy Cruisers, 3 Light Cruisers, 13 Destroyers. Not bad really.
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Old 04-04-11, 08:10 AM   #2
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Force Z was mostly a deterrent, it was sent to reinforce the Eastern Fleet in case Japan decided to move against British colonial possessions (They invaded French Indochina the previous year), but it wasn't really meant to tackle the entire Combined Fleet. Along with the HMS Indomitable, which was supposed to be there as well, it would've been a fairly viable force for smaller actions.
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Old 04-04-11, 09:26 AM   #3
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There were some other factors at work as well which explains why Force Z was thought to be adequate:

1) In 1941, most naval officers thought battleships at sea were fairly safe from air attack;

2) its remains unspoken even today, but in 1941, most british and american officers looked down on the japanese as an inferior (i.e. non-white) race and thought the IJN was not as competent as the USN/RN. At most, it was thought the japanese would only be able to strike in one place, probably the Philippines. Needless to say, Pearl Harbour and the next 3-4 months turned out to be a huge shock.
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Old 04-04-11, 09:52 AM   #4
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I don't really question the force - I think as deterrent, they were justified in being stationed where they were. The problem, really, is in the planning and execution of their ill-fated sortie - that was a serious blunder and the ships should have never sailed where they did. I think the underlying factor was the vast under-estimation of what land-based air can do to battleships. Which is very ironic, seeing that it was British planes proved quite the opposite earliest on in the war, playing such a crucial role in the Bismarck hunt and raids on the Italian fleet. Why the British thought they could but others couldn't probably does lie with the blatant disregard and disrespect of the Japanese military.
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Old 04-04-11, 10:03 AM   #5
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The real question is why force Z went ahead.
All through the planning stage it was dependent on a carrier being part of the group.
As the carriers were in turn made unavailable the deployment should have been stopped as they knew it was vital to the task.
In the end it was simply an empty gesture of bravado which threw away a lot of lives for negative benefit
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Didn't it also have something to do with shelling the Japanese beach head? Or was their invasion after?
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Didn't it also have something to do with shelling the Japanese beach head? Or was their invasion after?
The objective of the sortie that led to the destruction of Force Z was to destroy Japanese ships landing troops on Malaya. The squadron was sent to Singapore before the outbreak of war in the Pacific, though.
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Old 04-04-11, 03:03 PM   #8
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Force Z was initially created to bolster the guns at Singapore and oppose any Japanese invasion of Malaya.

The rest is history...lack of air cover etc.
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