looking for some graphics card pointers

Weiss Pinguin · 03-31-11, 09:51 PM

Okay, another stupid question: Would it be feasible to use this dedicated graphics card and CPU power supply, outside the case, for the card (and I guess the CPU) and keep the dinky 160W PSU for everything else? I read a review in the feedback section that sounds like someone did basically the same thing

(Oh sweet jebus I hope I can)

I guess it's probably not an easy question to answer without seeing the components...

JSLTIGER · 03-31-11, 10:24 PM

Feasible? Probably. Would you really want to? Probably not.

In order to hook something like that up, you'd have to leave the side of the case open so that you could run the power cords to the proper components. Depending on the design of the case you have (I'm not entirely sure how HP designs theirs), opening the side of the case may actually hurt the airflow inside by preventing an airflow stream from forming. Also, you'd be exposing a lot of components to a lot more dust and the risk of something interfering with the fans inside the case. Much higher chance of component failure that way.

Would what you are suggesting work? Yeah, probably. Do I think it's a good idea/would I do it? Absolutely not.

If you're thinking about going this route, I'd suggest just buying an entirely new case, demounting the motherboard from the slimline case and remounting it into the new case (provided you know what you're doing of course. Otherwise you're just begging for trouble and may fry the system). You may be able to take the optical drive and move it over as well. Not only would it solve your problems with the slimline case, but you'd be able to purchase a full-size card (greatly expanding your options) and a normal PSU. That being said, I don't know that what I'm suggesting is feasible given your budgetary situation.

EDIT: Don't forget to check the reviews of this thing...not the best in the world...

Weiss Pinguin · 03-31-11, 10:36 PM

Yeah, I read the reviews on that and they seemed pretty polarized... either five stars and endless praise or one star and a 'can't believe I fell for it'.

Since I can't seem to find any mini ITX power supplies with enough juice I guess a new case is what I'd have to go with

How difficult would it be to transfer the motherboard to a fullsize case? (I could probably, maybe, get some help with it) Or if I transferred over to a case with a similar form factor. (something like this, same general measurements (deeper tho) and a 450W PSU)

Man, this slimline is so not worth it

Edit: Or I guess alternatively I could just go with a low profile GT 220, which recommends a minimum of 12v @ 18 amps, and try the 220W PSU I found on newegg that has a output of 12v@18A...

JSLTIGER · 04-01-11, 10:15 AM

That case doesn't look like it's going to help you all that much. It looks like another slimline case to me.

It sounds to me like you've never transferred a system from one case to another before. Given that, I would not mess with it if I were you. Too many things can easily go wrong in the transfer when you don't know what you're doing.

Also, the specs of this machine mean that it's not really worth doing the move. You'd be better off grabbing a newer machine.

Weiss Pinguin · 04-01-11, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

That case doesn't look like it's going to help you all that much. It looks like another slimline case to me.

It sounds to me like you've never transferred a system from one case to another before. Given that, I would not mess with it if I were you. Too many things can easily go wrong in the transfer when you don't know what you're doing.

Nope, not personally. I guess I'll just leave it alone. I'll keep looking and see what comes up for now... bugger, so close, yet so far.

Weiss Pinguin · 04-05-11, 04:29 PM

Okay, after realizing I was reading the outputs wrong on the PSUs, I went back and now I think I have a setup: either the Radeon 5570 or Geforce GT 430 running on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-032-_-Product power supply (300W, 32 amps total). Thoughts? Not the best gaming rig, but for the heavier games I've got my Xbox

JSLTIGER · 04-05-11, 04:35 PM

Power supply link does not work.

JSLTIGER · 04-05-11, 10:28 PM

I think you're going to be stuck with the nvidia solution. The Radeon 5570 recommends at least a 400W PSU, while the nvidia card can handle the 300W PSU.

Weiss Pinguin · 04-05-11, 11:44 PM

Yeah. Well, the GT 430 won't run everything on high settings, but it'll get the job done until I can get a normal-sized computer to mess with. Plus I can get it at BestBuy and use that $50 gift card that's been gathering dust...

03-31-11, 09:51 PM	#1
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Okay, another stupid question: Would it be feasible to use this dedicated graphics card and CPU power supply, outside the case, for the card (and I guess the CPU) and keep the dinky 160W PSU for everything else? I read a review in the feedback section that sounds like someone did basically the same thing (Oh sweet jebus I hope I can) I guess it's probably not an easy question to answer without seeing the components... __________________

03-31-11, 10:24 PM	#2
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Feasible? Probably. Would you really want to? Probably not. In order to hook something like that up, you'd have to leave the side of the case open so that you could run the power cords to the proper components. Depending on the design of the case you have (I'm not entirely sure how HP designs theirs), opening the side of the case may actually hurt the airflow inside by preventing an airflow stream from forming. Also, you'd be exposing a lot of components to a lot more dust and the risk of something interfering with the fans inside the case. Much higher chance of component failure that way. Would what you are suggesting work? Yeah, probably. Do I think it's a good idea/would I do it? Absolutely not. If you're thinking about going this route, I'd suggest just buying an entirely new case, demounting the motherboard from the slimline case and remounting it into the new case (provided you know what you're doing of course. Otherwise you're just begging for trouble and may fry the system). You may be able to take the optical drive and move it over as well. Not only would it solve your problems with the slimline case, but you'd be able to purchase a full-size card (greatly expanding your options) and a normal PSU. That being said, I don't know that what I'm suggesting is feasible given your budgetary situation. EDIT: Don't forget to check the reviews of this thing...not the best in the world... __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

03-31-11, 10:36 PM	#3
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I read the reviews on that and they seemed pretty polarized... either five stars and endless praise or one star and a 'can't believe I fell for it'. Since I can't seem to find any mini ITX power supplies with enough juice I guess a new case is what I'd have to go with How difficult would it be to transfer the motherboard to a fullsize case? (I could probably, maybe, get some help with it) Or if I transferred over to a case with a similar form factor. (something like this, same general measurements (deeper tho) and a 450W PSU) Man, this slimline is so not worth it Edit: Or I guess alternatively I could just go with a low profile GT 220, which recommends a minimum of 12v @ 18 amps, and try the 220W PSU I found on newegg that has a output of 12v@18A... __________________ Last edited by Weiss Pinguin; 03-31-11 at 10:50 PM.

04-01-11, 10:15 AM	#4
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That case doesn't look like it's going to help you all that much. It looks like another slimline case to me. It sounds to me like you've never transferred a system from one case to another before. Given that, I would not mess with it if I were you. Too many things can easily go wrong in the transfer when you don't know what you're doing. Also, the specs of this machine mean that it's not really worth doing the move. You'd be better off grabbing a newer machine. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

04-05-11, 04:29 PM	#6
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Okay, after realizing I was reading the outputs wrong on the PSUs, I went back and now I think I have a setup: either the Radeon 5570 or Geforce GT 430 running on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-032-_-Product power supply (300W, 32 amps total). Thoughts? Not the best gaming rig, but for the heavier games I've got my Xbox __________________ Last edited by Weiss Pinguin; 04-05-11 at 06:53 PM. Reason: fixed link

04-05-11, 04:35 PM	#7
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Power supply link does not work. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

04-05-11, 10:28 PM	#8
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think you're going to be stuck with the nvidia solution. The Radeon 5570 recommends at least a 400W PSU, while the nvidia card can handle the 300W PSU. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

04-05-11, 11:44 PM	#9
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Yeah. Well, the GT 430 won't run everything on high settings, but it'll get the job done until I can get a normal-sized computer to mess with. Plus I can get it at BestBuy and use that $50 gift card that's been gathering dust... __________________